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hexagone

While a GTS is probably a relatively safe space to park your $ into for a car you won't drive considering scarcity, I think the GTS represents a poor "value" relative to any other 997.2 all features/options/experience considered for a car you'll drive. A manual S will be 95% of the driving experience for 65% of the dollars. Cue up the parts-bin apologist pitch forks

ATX_Native

Of all the 997 non-GT/Turbo cars I think the RWD GTS in Manual will be the one to own long term.

Just because it’s a .2 and the only RWD 997 with a wide body shell.

Even comparing 993 wide body cars the 993 C2S is worth about $30k over a 993 C4S these days.

FrenchieDadRS

I get your point, just pointing out GT3 RS and GT2 RS are both RWD and wide bodied.

mrd_spy

And £200k vs £90k for a 2wd GTS

DesmoSD

That video is several years too late. When the whole 997 being the favorite 911 videos, magazine articles came out, GTS' were ranked very high. Good luck finding a good low mileage, manual 997.2, yet alone a GTS for a good price in today's market

voiceprint1

Still waiting on the "market correction" for any Porsche, see example

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...704541383.html

Liste-Renn

If you have not driven a RWD 997 GTS Coupe, and the reviewers who rave about them actually have, your opinion is not terribly informed.
I have one. 6MT, LSD. It is PFM. Porsche struck some alchemy when they created the last 997 Carrera.
It's not an S. Option an S up and it's not a GTS.
But don't take my word for it- there are literally dozens of glowing reviews that back up my opinion and experience.
The premium valuations reflect that reality.

Add in the fact that they didn't produce many, and the appreciation of the 997.2 as "last of the analog" 911's...Voila!

Oh, and the wide-body RWD 997.2 is an exclusive club: GTS, GT3RS, GT2RS, Sport Classic and Speedster.

sandwedge

I remember reading reviews of the GTS when it was introduced. A number of them described it as a "rare bargain" from a car manufacturer not known for producing bargains. The reasoning was based on what was included in the package compared to a C2S or even a C4S. The reasoning as I recall it was that with the PSE being standard along with center lock wheels, wide body, the X-51 kit and other bits and pieces, you basically got the X-51 kit thrown in for free given the price of a GTS compared to a 997 C2S

BRN9121

Everyone's looking for the next commodity, which usually attracts non interest groups with money, they then screw up the whole hobby for everyone, and then just leave when the **** hits the fan.
If you are passionate, you will enjoy every moment while you're still breathing.

EVOMMM

Great drives in great cars are only a GTS away
and this from a 997.2 Turbo S owner

850tgul

DesmoSD

Those influencers really do make it difficult for us enthusiasts. My gripe was Magnus with long hoods. I missed many opportunities (pre Covid) to find a '73 911 to restore because of that guy.

Graufuchs

Singer ruined it for me. My 964s turned into 997s. Its a compromise, Im still happy but continue crave a 964.

Busta Rib

When new, the GTS was a good relative value and you could buy one for about a $10K premium over a
a comparable S. The X51 Powerkit was a $16k option alone that was baked into the GTS pricing. In present day, I agree with the OP in one sense that you can get 95% of the GTS experience for 75-80% of the dollars (not 65%) for a comparable S.

That said, the extra 5% you get with a GTS is sublime and almost priceless if you get the RWD manual coupe. I've driven and owned a .1 S and .2 GT3 so I have hands-on experience to know the extra track width in the rear can be felt when driving at the limit and the whole driving experience is greater than the sum of the parts-bin parts. It's not necessarily better performance, just different: more solid and stable than the S which translates to more confidence. At least to me.

And then there is the rarity and uniqueness that only each of us can place on our cars. The widebody is subtle but noticeable and brings a smile to my face everytime I look back after parking. I like big butts and I cannot lie.