Dilemma
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I bought my 997.2 C2 PDK in November 2020 after searching for almost 3 months and watching all the ones I had "saved" on various cars sites disappear within weeks.
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
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I bought my 997.2 C2 PDK in November 2020 after searching for almost 3 months and watching all the ones I had "saved" on various cars sites disappear within weeks.
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
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Better to have a "dilemma" than a bitter predicament.
It's great that you bought in on a 997 when you did. Had you instead just remained on the sidelines waiting for prices to drop, you'd certainly be in a position filled with bitter regret.
Enjoy what you have. Something good will present itself at the right time.
It's great that you bought in on a 997 when you did. Had you instead just remained on the sidelines waiting for prices to drop, you'd certainly be in a position filled with bitter regret.
Enjoy what you have. Something good will present itself at the right time.
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I bought my 997.2 C2 PDK in November 2020 after searching for almost 3 months and watching all the ones I had "saved" on various cars sites disappear within weeks.
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
Tom
Tom
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My buddy has a 2008 turbo 6-speed and recently told me he’s looking for a 997.2 with PDK because it’s “more fun to drive.”
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I've dealt with this Porsche dealership since 2007 but have never seen the pre-owned lot even remotely as close to almost abandoned as this. They just don't have used cars to sell. Or new ones for that matter. Not sure if this is local or nationwide. Going on what I'm reading here and elsewhere I suspect the latter. So probably not the ideal time to buy either new or used imo. Based on the tried and proven supply and demand formula. Then again, what will make the price of these cars to depreciate from here on short of a deep recession or depression?
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Get the manual you really want. For manual guys, driving a manual 997 is such a pleasure. I have 6 Porsches and the 5 sports cars are all manuals - no interest in a 2 pedal sports car no matter how good the transmissions are or how good they get. If I was a track junkie and trying to shave seconds or tenths, then maybe, but I'm not and really enjoy the involvement of both arms and legs when driving, shifting, rev matching, etc. I don't often deal with traffic so that's not a consideration for me either.
With a keen eye and ready to pounce funding, you should be able to find a manual for just a little more than you can sell your PDK for, but if you need the funds from the PDK car to buy the manual, you'll have to sell that one first as the manuals when priced competitively sell from 0-3 days on the market.
Also might try a CarMax search as their pricing doesn't reflect those in the know about the market, you can have it shipped to your local carmax for a few hundred dollars, have a PPI done after you buy it with the 7 day return policy, and the MaxCare warranty is actually very good. My brother bought his 997.2 6speed cab from them and they did $8,000 worth of warranty work to it after he had the PPI (post purchase inspection in this case) done at the local Porsche dealer.
With a keen eye and ready to pounce funding, you should be able to find a manual for just a little more than you can sell your PDK for, but if you need the funds from the PDK car to buy the manual, you'll have to sell that one first as the manuals when priced competitively sell from 0-3 days on the market.
Also might try a CarMax search as their pricing doesn't reflect those in the know about the market, you can have it shipped to your local carmax for a few hundred dollars, have a PPI done after you buy it with the 7 day return policy, and the MaxCare warranty is actually very good. My brother bought his 997.2 6speed cab from them and they did $8,000 worth of warranty work to it after he had the PPI (post purchase inspection in this case) done at the local Porsche dealer.
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I’ve owned both, now settled on my base .2 manual coupe. I honestly don’t think there’s THAT much difference. If you’re not paying close attention with the goal of identifying the power bump on the S, you’d never notice. Borderline academic for normal everyday driving conditions.
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I bought my 997.2 C2 PDK in November 2020 after searching for almost 3 months and watching all the ones I had "saved" on various cars sites disappear within weeks.
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
In August of 2020 I was seeing PDK C2 Base models with 35-50k miles going from $38k to $48k and same mileage C2S's going from $50-60k. I got mine for ~$45K with 39k miles, 1" thick book of service papers, new brakes, new rotors, 4 new Mich PS4S's and a VERY cool seller who let me PPI the hell out of the car (including pull the oil).
That being said I specifically remember a Navy Metallic C2S with Sand Interior and a number of Fab Speed upgrades at Millenia Motors in FL for sale at $57k at the same time I bought mine and thought that the extra $12k was pushing it. Looking back I wish I would have just pulled that trigger....Now bases are going for $50k+ and S's pushing into $70k
Point being, if you know you really want something specific (IE Manual Coupe) then its highly likely you'll still want it 6 months, 1yr, 2yrs from now. I can tell you there are more and more people getting into 997.2's ESP the Manual ones and as @Wayne Smith noted I also believe the start of Covid marked the bottom of the 997.2 depreciation curve. If you can find the car you want I would 100% pull that trigger and sell your Cab.
P.S.
For me personally I do have 2 hindsight "wishes" (not regrets!)
1. I could have just spent that extra 10k and a gotten an S
-I've put about 4k in upgrades into the car already (sport mode upgrade, sport steering wheel, S quad tips) that all would have more than likely come on the S anyway.
2. Color
-mine is Arctic Silver which I'm FOND of....but every time I see that Metallic Navy or Macadamia, and ESP Forest Green Metallic.....I ache....
Haven't regretted it for a second. I feel giddy every time I walk out to the garage and see its curvy rear end sitting there...
-Zoomy.
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OP, life is short. If you don't need to sweat the financials, get the car you want and don't look back. Prices for 997s will likely not drop much if at all. The supply chain/chip issues are driving inflation on luxury goods and will likely persist for at least 1-2 years. You could be looking for awhile for your right car/price or you can pay a perceived premium now and just enjoy it. Nobody but you knows where your personal value and enjoyment sweet spot is for a 997, but if there is anything I've come to appreciate in my old age (55), it is not to sweat the small stuff and have gratitude every day and moment possible. Don't take what might come to pass for granted and enjoy the moment(s) while you can. If you knew you might get hit by a bus in the near future, what would you do? Doesn't mean it will happen or that you should be irresponsible. But don't over-think or analyze things. It's a sports car. Get in and enjoy the literal and proverbial drive. Good luck with your decision.
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Get the manual you really want. For manual guys, driving a manual 997 is such a pleasure. I have 6 Porsches and the 5 sports cars are all manuals - no interest in a 2 pedal sports car no matter how good the transmissions are or how good they get. If I was a track junkie and trying to shave seconds or tenths, then maybe, but I'm not and really enjoy the involvement of both arms and legs when driving, shifting, rev matching, etc. I don't often deal with traffic so that's not a consideration for me either.
With a keen eye and ready to pounce funding, you should be able to find a manual for just a little more than you can sell your PDK for, but if you need the funds from the PDK car to buy the manual, you'll have to sell that one first as the manuals when priced competitively sell from 0-3 days on the market.
Also might try a CarMax search as their pricing doesn't reflect those in the know about the market, you can have it shipped to your local carmax for a few hundred dollars, have a PPI done after you buy it with the 7 day return policy, and the MaxCare warranty is actually very good. My brother bought his 997.2 6speed cab from them and they did $8,000 worth of warranty work to it after he had the PPI (post purchase inspection in this case) done at the local Porsche dealer.
With a keen eye and ready to pounce funding, you should be able to find a manual for just a little more than you can sell your PDK for, but if you need the funds from the PDK car to buy the manual, you'll have to sell that one first as the manuals when priced competitively sell from 0-3 days on the market.
Also might try a CarMax search as their pricing doesn't reflect those in the know about the market, you can have it shipped to your local carmax for a few hundred dollars, have a PPI done after you buy it with the 7 day return policy, and the MaxCare warranty is actually very good. My brother bought his 997.2 6speed cab from them and they did $8,000 worth of warranty work to it after he had the PPI (post purchase inspection in this case) done at the local Porsche dealer.
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OP, life is short. If you don't need to sweat the financials, get the car you want and don't look back. Prices for 997s will likely not drop much if at all. The supply chain/chip issues are driving inflation on luxury goods and will likely persist for at least 1-2 years. You could be looking for awhile for your right car/price or you can pay a perceived premium now and just enjoy it. Nobody but you knows where your personal value and enjoyment sweet spot is for a 997, but if there is anything I've come to appreciate in my old age (55), it is not to sweat the small stuff and have gratitude every day and moment possible. Don't take what might come to pass for granted and enjoy the moment(s) while you can. If you knew you might get hit by a bus in the near future, what would you do? Doesn't mean it will happen or that you should be irresponsible. But don't over-think or analyze things. It's a sports car. Get in and enjoy the literal and proverbial drive. Good luck with your decision.
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Keep an eye on Porsche Dealership inventory as they tend to be more "reasonably priced" (they tend to look more at book value) then the "low mileage resale independent dealers".....then Swap them your PDK as you may have some negotiation on the price difference....
Other than that...buy a manual coupe 997.2 manual coupe now before the prices plane off and then get even higher in a year or two.....
Good Luck
Other than that...buy a manual coupe 997.2 manual coupe now before the prices plane off and then get even higher in a year or two.....
Good Luck
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A lot of good advice here so far!
I'll chime in and say that if you put your 911 away for the winter, I'd sell your current car now and stash the cash.
Then I'd wait until spring to see if the price bubble has popped a bit (unlikely but there's a chance) or simply be ready to strike hard when the right car presents itself when the spring selling season starts in earnest.
I'll chime in and say that if you put your 911 away for the winter, I'd sell your current car now and stash the cash.
Then I'd wait until spring to see if the price bubble has popped a bit (unlikely but there's a chance) or simply be ready to strike hard when the right car presents itself when the spring selling season starts in earnest.
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