ATX_Native

Did we watch the same video?

I didn’t feel that way at all.

As someone who has owned an original IMS bearing 1999 911 and spent 4-5 months searching for the right 997 (.1 and .2), he mentioned what is on most people’s mind when searching for a 997.

Even though I was open to a .1, I ended up getting a great deal on a 997.2. A deal that was made sweeter because of the known perks of the .2.

He just stated that the IMS and Bore Scoring are concerns in .1, which is a factual statement.

It’s rare but if it happens to you it either can negatively impact someone’s savings OR in the least sting a bit.

For some people, it matters more than others.

His synopsis was absolutely correct in that the 997.2 seems to be free of the potential of expensive gotchas and due to its low numbers in manual form, should do well going forward.

ThomasCarreraGTS

Well, first of all he opens the video by telling us straight up that a used car dealer told him he should review a 997.2, and he said "why?" So here is a guy who admits that he doesn't understand the 911 and specifically 997.2 product, but yet he is going to create a video telling us about it. Reminds me of a time when I was selling a new Ford Aerostar to the automotive column writer for a major northeast newspaper, who told me straight up he had no specific knowledge about automobiles, but he knew how to write.

Next, he acts like the Black Edition was some very special model, and we all know it was simply one of many marketing packages offered by Porsche. They are nice, but not worth any more than any other non-Black Edition. Then he states that the previous 997, in his exact words, "...had an engine that was prone to failure..." "...had a big bearing in the back that would let loose...and basically grenade... so those are not desirable..." Really? That is outright inaccurate at best, and clearly demonstrates that this guy does not know 911s and is simply restating what he heard somewhere. Anyone is a regular reader of this forum knows that the 997.1 is in fact desirable, and that there were more than one version of the IMS bearing. In any case, they were not "prone to failure". It could happen, and did in a small percentage which is inexcusable on Porsches part, but it is a relatively small problem, and most definitely NOT a normal occurrence as he suggests in his video. I put over 100,000 miles on my 2003 996 and never had any problems with the IMS bearing or scoring.

Next, he says that in 2009 for the 997.2 "...they made technical changes to the engine, the most important was adding Direct Fuel Injection..." This is outright FALSE. For 2009, Porsche replaced the M97 engine (and previous M96) with the ALL NEW, completely different 9A1 engine, which is the basis for not only the 997.2 engine but also the 991. He clearly has no idea, which is why I stated he is in fact, clueless. He is.

ThomasCarreraGTS

No ATX_Native, I do not drink "Hateraid" as you suggest. I replied to Skwerl, above, and copied it below since you referenced it in your comments. The guy who made that 6 minute video was clearly clueless about 911s. And to respond to your making fun of the title of my video, I'll share 2 things with you. First of all, you would be surprised how many non-forum readers actually ask me if a Porsche 911 can be a daily driver. Second, if you know anything about how YouTube works, we have to create titles that get people to click, (have you ever read the crazy click-bait titles of most YouTubers????) and that reflect what viewers type in search boxes. So yes, while you and me, and pretty much most people on this forum in fact know that the 911 can be a daily driver, many if not most regular people out there do not. Below is my original response to Skwerl. Have a great week, and stay warm!


Well, first of all he opens the video by telling us straight up that a used car dealer told him he should review a 997.2, and he said "why?" So here is a guy who admits that he doesn't understand the 911 and specifically 997.2 product, but yet he is going to create a video telling us about it. Reminds me of a time when I was selling a new Ford Aerostar to the automotive column writer for a major northeast newspaper, who told me straight up he had no specific knowledge about automobiles, but he knew how to write.

Next, he acts like the Black Edition was some very special model, and we all know it was simply one of many marketing packages offered by Porsche. They are nice, but not worth any more than any other non-Black Edition. Then he states that the previous 997, in his exact words, "...had an engine that was prone to failure..." "...had a big bearing in the back that would let loose...and basically grenade... so those are not desirable..." Really? That is outright inaccurate at best, and clearly demonstrates that this guy does not know 911s and is simply restating what he heard somewhere. Anyone is a regular reader of this forum knows that the 997.1 is in fact desirable, and that there were more than one version of the IMS bearing. In any case, they were not "prone to failure". It could happen, and did in a small percentage which is inexcusable on Porsches part, but it is a relatively small problem, and most definitely NOT a normal occurrence as he suggests in his video. I put over 100,000 miles on my 2003 996 and never had any problems with the IMS bearing or scoring.

Next, he says that in 2009 for the 997.2 "...they made technical changes to the engine, the most important was adding Direct Fuel Injection..." This is outright FALSE. For 2009, Porsche replaced the M97 engine (and previous M96) with the ALL NEW, completely different 9A1 engine, which is the basis for not only the 997.2 engine but also the 991. He clearly has no idea, which is why I stated that he is, in fact, clueless. He is.

jimwood

As an owner of a 997.2 and 991.1 - I thought he was accurate on the feel in terms of size of the 997 compared to the 991. The 997 drives and feels a lot smaller inside, it also has more torque down low, which does make it feel a bit faster to me.

i searched 997.2 Coupes with MT, on Autotrader and Cars.com they are scarce and expensive.

Beyond the engine, which for me was a major decision to pay more, the 997.2 has other features that some buyers prefer, like interior updates, and LED lights - which again caused me to pony up when I bought it several years ago. He does not really go into those..... but I think from a birdseye view - he is right as to the value of MT Coupes.

The 997.2 has been extremely reliable. 1 o2 sensor in 100k miles of spirited driving, and oil changes. That's it.

wjk_glynn

Thanks, I'll it to the following list...

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l-reviews.html

Karl.