Does anyone know this brake part?
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Does anyone know this brake part?
I am replacing front brakes on my 2012 GTS. Porsche dealer tech friend of mine is telling me I need to also replace the aluminum locating pegs for the wheels that are mounted to the rotors. FCP Euro seems to be clueless about what these are? Any help would be appreciated.
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they seem to be referring to centerlock wheels. When equipped, you get those 5 dome shaped studs that locate the wheel, while the center lock tightens it up. If you don't have centerlocks, disregard.
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Yes, centerlocks. I am just trying to score an aftermarket or cheaper set. Porsche dealership wants $500 for them, but I have a friend doing my brakes with everything going on.
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Don't waste your money. Fisher 7508 is correct. I used the same approach. Not a single problem. By the way, you do not need special/costly center lock rotors. Carrera S rotors are identical.
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Remember to use the special paste on the center lock threads and make sure the spring loaded lock (inside the nut) returns to the full out position before putting the caps back on.
If you have the factory hub cap removing tool the end without the hook has the hex tool to coax the lock to the outer position. These tools are $9 at the dealer but they may have trouble finding it in the parts manual. Have them look it up in the GT3 tool section.
If you have the factory hub cap removing tool the end without the hook has the hex tool to coax the lock to the outer position. These tools are $9 at the dealer but they may have trouble finding it in the parts manual. Have them look it up in the GT3 tool section.
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PS: Those center lock threads are sharp. As you spread the paste on them they will be happy to spill your blood. You won't realize it until you see the drips on the floor. Then you need to clean everything off and start again. Just saying ... Be careful.
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There is definitely a recommended replacement interval for the CL nubs. If they're worn, they allow for rotational wheel play even with the mega torque of the CL nut.
Still don't know why the CL wheels are popular but if they're on your car, probably not worth the expense to change them, though I personally would. Removing and reinstalling a traditional 5 lug wheel using 2 guide pins as an aid is a piece of cake, and a set of Ti lug bolts is a lifetime purchase for half the cost of the replacement nubs with no special tools required.
Still don't know why the CL wheels are popular but if they're on your car, probably not worth the expense to change them, though I personally would. Removing and reinstalling a traditional 5 lug wheel using 2 guide pins as an aid is a piece of cake, and a set of Ti lug bolts is a lifetime purchase for half the cost of the replacement nubs with no special tools required.
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There is definitely a recommended replacement interval for the CL nubs. If they're worn, they allow for rotational wheel play even with the mega torque of the CL nut.
Still don't know why the CL wheels are popular but if they're on your car, probably not worth the expense to change them, though I personally would. Removing and reinstalling a traditional 5 lug wheel using 2 guide pins as an aid is a piece of cake, and a set of Ti lug bolts is a lifetime purchase for half the cost of the replacement nubs with no special tools required.
Still don't know why the CL wheels are popular but if they're on your car, probably not worth the expense to change them, though I personally would. Removing and reinstalling a traditional 5 lug wheel using 2 guide pins as an aid is a piece of cake, and a set of Ti lug bolts is a lifetime purchase for half the cost of the replacement nubs with no special tools required.
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I wonder if the replacement interval for the locating nubs on the center lock setup is based on the assumption that a GTS will see track time and a lot of wheel changes. I mean, that's why those cars have center lock wheels in the first place, right?
For a street driven GTS, I would think that the nubs would see a lot less wear and thus a much longer service life.
For a street driven GTS, I would think that the nubs would see a lot less wear and thus a much longer service life.
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Here's more info on Centerlock wheels for street and track use including a rear hub recall and the recommended maintenance interval for some / all of the components if they'll be used on a track car - obviously a street car would need less service, but there's a statement in there about spirited street driving showing the same type of wear as track use. Dates would apply to all 997.2s as it runs from 2009-2013.
http://www.brrperformance.com/blog/?p=2043
and here's a shop that offers a centerlock service with some nice photos of the worn out parts and why servicing them is required.
https://www.bbiautosport.com/blog/20...r-lock-service
Just sharing info for you guys with CLs and asking about servicing and parts replacement for them.
http://www.brrperformance.com/blog/?p=2043
and here's a shop that offers a centerlock service with some nice photos of the worn out parts and why servicing them is required.
https://www.bbiautosport.com/blog/20...r-lock-service
Just sharing info for you guys with CLs and asking about servicing and parts replacement for them.
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I am replacing front brakes on my 2012 GTS. Porsche dealer tech friend of mine is telling me I need to also replace the aluminum locating pegs for the wheels that are mounted to the rotors. FCP Euro seems to be clueless about what these are? Any help would be appreciated.
FCP sell them also... FCP Euro - Kits (USD)
Front
1 Disc Brake Pad Set TEX-2313901 Textar logo $88.47
4 Disc Brake Pad Shim OEM-99635108901 Oem supplier logo $57.64
1 Disc Brake Pad Wear Sensor SEB-99761275700 Sebro logo $6.41
1 Disc Brake Pad Wear Sensor SEB-99761267800 Sebro logo $6.05
1 Disc Brake Hardware Kit POR-99635195911 Genuine porsche $60.58
2 Disc Brake Rotor Driving Pin Kit POR-99734190100 Genuine porsche $392.32
4 Disc Brake Rotor Set Screw POR-90026904701 Genuine porsche $1.88
1 Disc Brake Rotor ZIM-460156020 Zimmermann logo $126.77
1 Disc Brake Rotor ZIM-460156120 Zimmermann logo $126.77
Rear
1 Disc Brake Pad Set TEX-2404901 Textar logo $86.34
4 Disc Brake Pad Shim OEM-99635208602 Oem supplier logo $67.68
4 Disc Brake Pad Shim OEM-99635208600 Oem supplier logo $58.88
2 Disc Brake Pad Wear Sensor SEB-99761267601 Sebro logo $15.92
1 Disc Brake Hardware Kit ATE-610280 Ate logo $21.39
2 Disc Brake Rotor Driving Pin Kit POR-99734190100 Genuine porsche $392.32
4 Disc Brake Rotor Set Screw POR-90026904701 Genuine porsche $1.88
1 Disc Brake Rotor ZIM-460156220 Zimmermann logo $112.09
1 Disc Brake Rotor ZIM-460156320 Zimmermann logo $112.09
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Here's more info on Centerlock wheels for street and track use including a rear hub recall and the recommended maintenance interval for some / all of the components if they'll be used on a track car - obviously a street car would need less service, but there's a statement in there about spirited street driving showing the same type of wear as track use. Dates would apply to all 997.2s as it runs from 2009-2013.
http://www.brrperformance.com/blog/?p=2043
and here's a shop that offers a centerlock service with some nice photos of the worn out parts and why servicing them is required.
https://www.bbiautosport.com/blog/20...r-lock-service
Just sharing info for you guys with CLs and asking about servicing and parts replacement for them.
http://www.brrperformance.com/blog/?p=2043
and here's a shop that offers a centerlock service with some nice photos of the worn out parts and why servicing them is required.
https://www.bbiautosport.com/blog/20...r-lock-service
Just sharing info for you guys with CLs and asking about servicing and parts replacement for them.
The recommended inspection period for GT3s was 4,200 miles of “track” usage and candidly, you need to inspect a lot more than your center locks before each and every track usage/weekend. This is super minor in comparison to everything you do for a car being tracked.
Porsche put these center locks on their most power cars and they are handling a whole lot of force for guys tunning their turbos and track guys. Although, I am sure the pins are totally fine on my now 40k street driven GTS cabriolet, I am totally down with changing the pins.
I was just curious why neither Suncoast nor FCP Euro stocked or recommended them for a brake job. Even the Suncoast parts guy was at a loss.
One of my Porsche tech buddies just texted me that I need to replace them. Strange no one else seems to know this or offer the parts.