Guide to Repairing a PDK Transmission
#601
Thank you PV!
i programmed the TCU new with software T_82, then cleared all fault codes as prompted by the piwis.
I ran the calibration with parts replacement and about 30 seconds it in it stops without any activation of shift rods and the protocol gives a „CAN signal failure gateway“ (pic attached). Also there were the following fault codes in the DME
P1691 communication TCU gear box (no signal)
U0101 communication TCU gear box (no signal)
P1628 communication TCU manual gear box (no signal).
Since I updated the TCU software I thought the DME software would not be able to communicate with the TCU to trigger the calibration so I ended up updating the DME as well. I cleared all failure codes after this and tried a new calibration.
The result is 3 fault codes in the DME That I had prior to updating showed up again (pic attached),
no fault code in the TCU.
When I check the PDK TCU I get signals of all sensors and actuators.
But the TCU appears not to be able to make any of the actuators move .
Is this solved with a new TCU for 800 dollars? It appears to be fine when programming software update and reading sensor signals .
it lacks where it should get active!
does anyone have a wiring diagram ? Maybe i did not connect a plug back when I put the engine back in …….
Is a new TCU the part that will solve the problem ?
i mean I replaced just a dumb sensor. All other parts stayed !!
TIA
i programmed the TCU new with software T_82, then cleared all fault codes as prompted by the piwis.
I ran the calibration with parts replacement and about 30 seconds it in it stops without any activation of shift rods and the protocol gives a „CAN signal failure gateway“ (pic attached). Also there were the following fault codes in the DME
P1691 communication TCU gear box (no signal)
U0101 communication TCU gear box (no signal)
P1628 communication TCU manual gear box (no signal).
Since I updated the TCU software I thought the DME software would not be able to communicate with the TCU to trigger the calibration so I ended up updating the DME as well. I cleared all failure codes after this and tried a new calibration.
The result is 3 fault codes in the DME That I had prior to updating showed up again (pic attached),
no fault code in the TCU.
When I check the PDK TCU I get signals of all sensors and actuators.
But the TCU appears not to be able to make any of the actuators move .
Is this solved with a new TCU for 800 dollars? It appears to be fine when programming software update and reading sensor signals .
it lacks where it should get active!
does anyone have a wiring diagram ? Maybe i did not connect a plug back when I put the engine back in …….
Is a new TCU the part that will solve the problem ?
i mean I replaced just a dumb sensor. All other parts stayed !!
TIA
is it possible that the battery voltage goes low while that happens? Are the plugs for the PDK seated properly?
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Kpadas (02-06-2024)
#602
Outside power source was hooked up and never got a message of low voltage.
correct It sees all sensors.
it seems like it is something in the software that shut it down after playing too much around with the failure .
i had the car also at a shop that is mentioned by the sensor manufacturer but they could not do anything.
it appears to be something with the communication between TCU and DME
correct It sees all sensors.
it seems like it is something in the software that shut it down after playing too much around with the failure .
i had the car also at a shop that is mentioned by the sensor manufacturer but they could not do anything.
it appears to be something with the communication between TCU and DME
Last edited by Pinkawa; 08-15-2021 at 08:27 PM.
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Kpadas (02-07-2024)
#603
Slow progress but at least some progress.
I tried to split transmission without a proper tool only using steel and two 2 armed standard bearing removers. Didn’t work out for me. I got a proper tool produced, don’t have enough nice equipment when I temporarily live in US. I used this drawing / dimensions:
I tried to split transmission without a proper tool only using steel and two 2 armed standard bearing removers. Didn’t work out for me. I got a proper tool produced, don’t have enough nice equipment when I temporarily live in US. I used this drawing / dimensions:
Thankyou Niklas Vemdal, for the helpful drawing...
PDK Case Puller
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#604
@PV997, Wonderful work you have performed!! Is there a short description of the difference to the Panamera PKD? i am looking for possibilities to repair a slipping clutch,
Last edited by Petza914; 08-23-2021 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Eliminated the quote from the long original post to eliminate unnecessary scrolling, leaving the compliment.
#605
PDK TCU values
Outside power source was hooked up and never got a message of low voltage.
correct It sees all sensors.
it seems like it is something in the software that shut it down after playing too much around with the failure .
i had the car also at a shop that is mentioned by the sensor manufacturer but they could not do anything.
it appears to be something with the communication between TCU and DME
correct It sees all sensors.
it seems like it is something in the software that shut it down after playing too much around with the failure .
i had the car also at a shop that is mentioned by the sensor manufacturer but they could not do anything.
it appears to be something with the communication between TCU and DME
I checked the TCU values and found two things that I d like to get your Input on. Maybe someone could tell me what values they get with ignition on and in idle :
- the very first two items show “inaktive “
- the very last item-voltage - shows 0 Volts.
when do the first to values go to active?
would I have a fault code if one of the solenoids in the valve block would have a malfunction?
thank you!
Last edited by Pinkawa; 08-20-2021 at 08:52 PM.
#606
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
I checked the TCU values and found two things that I d like to get your Input on. Maybe someone could tell me what values they get with ignition on and in idle :
when do the first to values go to active?
would I have a fault code if one of the solenoids in the valve block would have a malfunction?
thank you!
- the very first two items show “inaktive “
- the very last item-voltage - shows 0 Volts.
when do the first to values go to active?
would I have a fault code if one of the solenoids in the valve block would have a malfunction?
thank you!
Not sure why those say "inactive" as the translation is "solenoid valve for selection of switching rod". Have no idea what a Bitwerte is and google doesn't tell me either.
It does look like you are getting valid readings from the distance sensors (assuming that's what the second picture shows) so it looks like the TCU is getting data from them and the TCU is communicating with the ECM.
BjornS - On the chance you see this can you edit your comment to delete quoting the post? Just log in, scroll to your comment and use the edit button. Thanks.
#607
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Thanks for the edit Bjorn. Take a look at the document attached to this comment as there's a lot of good info regarding the Panamera's PDK. Functionally the Panamera PDK is very similar to the 911/Cayman PDK but the implementation is a bit different. If you do end up repairing yours, please document it over in the Panamera forum but also post a link here so we can check it out. Good luck!
#608
Transaxle oil
Hello I replaced the displacement sensor on my 991 and now I need to refill the transaxle oil.
in Israel we can’t buy the mobilube ptx anyone can recommend the best replacement?
here is a list of available products:Motul gear 300
Motul gear 300 ls
Royal purple
Mobil 1 ls
Amsoil severe
in Israel we can’t buy the mobilube ptx anyone can recommend the best replacement?
here is a list of available products:Motul gear 300
Motul gear 300 ls
Royal purple
Mobil 1 ls
Amsoil severe
#609
Hello I replaced the displacement sensor on my 991 and now I need to refill the transaxle oil.
in Israel we can’t buy the mobilube ptx anyone can recommend the best replacement?
here is a list of available products:Motul gear 300
Motul gear 300 ls
Royal purple
Mobil 1 ls
Amsoil severe
in Israel we can’t buy the mobilube ptx anyone can recommend the best replacement?
here is a list of available products:Motul gear 300
Motul gear 300 ls
Royal purple
Mobil 1 ls
Amsoil severe
Trailer it to your local Porsche dealer and have the service department fill it with the correct fluid, if you can't find a replacement in Israel.....
#610
Not so simple
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...r-atf-pdk.html
Trailer it to your local Porsche dealer and have the service department fill it with the correct fluid, if you can't find a replacement in Israel.....
Trailer it to your local Porsche dealer and have the service department fill it with the correct fluid, if you can't find a replacement in Israel.....
#611
#612
Hello I replaced the displacement sensor on my 991 and now I need to refill the transaxle oil.
in Israel we can’t buy the mobilube ptx anyone can recommend the best replacement?
here is a list of available products:Motul gear 300
Motul gear 300 ls
Royal purple
Mobil 1 ls
Amsoil severe
in Israel we can’t buy the mobilube ptx anyone can recommend the best replacement?
here is a list of available products:Motul gear 300
Motul gear 300 ls
Royal purple
Mobil 1 ls
Amsoil severe
Jeff
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#613
These are the standard over temp faults and aren't unusual during heavy duty track use, it simply means the clutch fluid in the sump has gone above the limit set by Porsche. Check out LN engineering for a heavy duty PDK clutch fluid/water exchanger. There's also an aftermarket pump/cooler that can be added to the PDK gear oil section, neither the 997 or 987 came with one. Porsche added a gear oil cooler in 2013 to the 991/981 as standard equipment I suspect in response to heat-related complaints.
Thanks for that info👍
I'll have to check that out.
#614
Thank you all for contributing!
My car is running again.
I bought a Boxster S 2009 with a PDK with undefined issues as a hobby project. Thanks to this thread and especially PV997 and T-design I can now enjoy the car. Installed new distance sensor, put everything together, did steering sensor calibration and all fault codes are gone.
Now time to start detailing😀.
Thank you!
I bought a Boxster S 2009 with a PDK with undefined issues as a hobby project. Thanks to this thread and especially PV997 and T-design I can now enjoy the car. Installed new distance sensor, put everything together, did steering sensor calibration and all fault codes are gone.
Now time to start detailing😀.
Thank you!
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#615
997.2 4S has hard 1-2 upshift during WOT take off
First off what an amazing wealth of knowledge on this post. Big thanks to the OP and all who have contributed. I was wondering if anyone has experienced hard up shifts. Mine occurs in Sport mode with dead stop WOT takeoff. It almost bangs. I never thought it was an issue until I had the wife in the car and she made a comment. Is this abnormal any ideas to resolve? Clutch oil is probably original car only has 32000 miles but is a 2012. 4WD issue or CV issue?
I have held off doing launch control so who knows what that will do.
I have held off doing launch control so who knows what that will do.
Last edited by workkyle; 08-30-2021 at 06:48 PM.