RiccardoB

Hi,
I am in the market for my first 911 and I need some advice on the price of the car I have found.
It's a 2009 997.2 CS4 MT with less then 30Kmiles - it has the Sport PASM, Dynamic Cornering Lights, Sport Chrono Package Plus and the interior is in basic black leather.
He is asking 64K and I wanted to have an opinion from some more experience people then me if it's a good deal.
Thanks for any advice.
Riccardo

Dubgw

Just for comparison I recently bought 2011 C4S Cab w 31k
miles ....AND HAVE BRAND NEW CPO 2 yr warranty from Porsche dealer and paid $60k plus tax....
after long researching before buying, I got a great deal!!

ThreeFiftySix

What was the MSRP?

groovzilla

A CS4 is a one only manufactured car so it is extremely valuable
...Just kidding but a 2009 C4S MT w/less than 30K miles is a nice example to find---> You can't compare price of a Cabriolet because Cab's values are less than coupe's
It all depends on the overall condition of the car but if it has been serviced/maintained properly I would say a $61-$62K price is fair
Don't forget, asking prices are not set in stone and most sellers are willing to negotiate so grinding on price is always recommended

Whatever you do make sure you have a PPI performed with any Porsche purchase.

Dubgw

My MSRP was $138k...!
entire interior is leather optioned w contrast stitching except for vent slats!!
FULL PPF and built in F&R detectors....
Can't sell a coupe here in South Florida!!

kellen

Full leather or base? Sports exhaust? I’d say mid to high 50s. Depends on other options, service history, etc.

For reference I bought my 2009 C4S with 51000 miles, MGM over black full leather, PSE, sport, dynamics for 53k. No accidents and had mechanic receipts. Good history.

Dubgw

I agree w Kellen... mid-high 50's max!
Typically model years r worth $2k ea and my CPO worth at least $3k for my 2011 C4S.... that's $7k
i paid $60 k AT A Porsche dealership.. hence $53k for a 2009

ThreeFiftySix

I have a 2009 Targa 4S with 26k miles, no accidents, full maint reports

My MSRP was $134k and I paid $54k back in April 2018. I would like to think I got a decent deal.

I agree with Kellen and Dubgw

street rod

If its in mint condition with perfect PPI then I think $57 - $59k What color is it? Dealer or private?

rw229

A low mileage 997.2 S/4S manual with SPASM - P17 (030/220) is a fairly rare car.

Condition is everything, so assuming that checks out and you like the car, 60 would not be out of line. Possibly more if it’s a car you really want.

SpeedyD

Is it worth that much or more than that much to you? If so, then it is a good purchase for you.

For example my car is worth more than market to me because I have seen many cars and prefer my car's mix of attributes and peace of mind that I maintained it so well.

If someone starts looking to save a few bucks and buys a car that is not exactly what they want, they are not getting a better price. They are paying less money for something that is worth less to them.

The best price or deal you can get is the one where after you pay the price, you feel good about what you have purchased vs. the money you just spent.

If there is a "smoking deal" for a car that is a color you despise, doesnt have all the options you desire, etc... it may be a horrible deal in fact, even if "objectively" priced better than other cars vs. MSRP.

Look at many cars but when one grabs you I recommend ignoring a couple thousand here or there.

pburt03

Very well said.

Dennis R. Cliff

Of course, you do not want to pay anymore than you have to no matter how much you may want the car. It is very common for a seller to advertise a car at a higher price than they are willing to accept. The seller may be expecting to be negotiated down and their stated price is their buffer. You have to find out what is their rock bottom price. If you watch cars for sale on Ebay, they start out at some ridiculous price and if there are no "I gotta have it suckers" out there they reduce the price. I have not seen a Porsche matching the description of the one that you are considering for more than $64K. If I had to have that car I would stand firm at $59K or maybe $60K. If the car stays on the market very long, it may go for much less. You have to be willing to let a few Porsches go in order to get one at a good price. Good luck.

raidersfan

The low-mile Targa on BAT just went for $67,000! They overpaid though; someone really wanted a sub 10,000 mile Targa, and there aren't many around.

raidersfan

$64k seems very high. S-PASM is nice but you can spend $3,000 on Ohlins and get a much better setup. It isn't worth much more than non SPASM to most people.

18-way sport seats are worth something, but again, they can be purchased for $3,000 here.

Full leather would be worth something, if this car had it.

I sold my full leather 2009 Basalt Black manual C2S with 12,000 miles here for $59,500 after about 2 months. That might give you someplace to start. That car has MSRP of $104k. If yours is higher, you can adjust up for the MSRP and adjust down for the mileage. Deduct $5k for mileage and add back roughly 50% of the MSRP difference for the build. A low option manual C2S is going to MSRP around $108k, so I would say $56-57k is a fair price.