solidgranite

Hello! I finally made the decision to purchase a 911 and plan to sign papers and take delivery tomorrow from a local dealer. It's been on their lot for about a week so all of the protective packaging has already been removed.

Here it is: https://www.westmontporsche.com/new/...2fd65e3f4a.htm

Looking for some advice on A.) finalizing the deal and B.) what to do next.

• They are offering me the car for MSRP and no added extras. Asked for a discount and I was promptly told not happening. Can I press and maybe get something out of them? I don't need this car now.
• Assuming I take delivery tomorrow, what should I get moving on? PPF? Ceramic coating? I do not plan to track the car, fwiw.
• I'm worried the paint might already be somewhat compromised, so should I take it to a proper detailer immediately and have them apply ceramic coating? Can I trust the dealer to do this? Thus far, the experience has been exceptional.
• Is there a break-in period?
• Since the seats are chalk, do I need to apply something to them to prevent coloring from jeans, etc?
• What else am I missing?

Thanks in advance!!

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porsc992

Congratulations on your decision to purchase a Porsche 911! That’s an exciting milestone. Let’s break down your questions into two parts: finalizing the deal and what to do next.

A.) Finalizing the Deal

1. Negotiation Leverage:
   
   • MSRP and Extras: In today’s market, especially for desirable models like the 911, dealerships often stick to MSRP, particularly if there’s high demand. However, while a discount might not be feasible, you can still negotiate for other perks:
     • Freebies: Ask for complimentary services like the first scheduled maintenance, free detailing, or accessories (e.g., floor mats, a car cover, or even a Porsche-branded accessory).
     • Extended Warranty: You could request an extended warranty or a discounted rate on one.
     • Financing: If you're financing, see if they can offer a more competitive interest rate or waive any additional fees.
   • Timing: Since you mentioned you don’t need the car now, you could use that to your advantage. Expressing your willingness to walk away might give them the incentive to throw in something extra.
2. Final Inspection:
   
   • Inspect the Car: Before signing, carefully inspect the car in daylight. Look for any signs of damage or imperfections, especially since the car has been on the lot for a week and the protective packaging has been removed.
   • Verify the Deal: Double-check that all the agreed-upon terms are correctly listed in the contract.

B.) What to Do Next

1. Paint Protection:
   
   • PPF (Paint Protection Film): Given that you don’t plan to track the car but want to protect the paint, PPF is an excellent option for areas prone to chips, like the front bumper, hood, and side mirrors. You can choose to do a full-body wrap or just the high-impact areas.
   • Ceramic Coating: This adds a layer of protection on top of the paint (and PPF if applied), making it easier to clean and providing some UV protection. Ideally, have a professional detailer inspect the paint first. Even new cars might need minor paint correction before applying the coating. You can ask the dealer if they work with a trusted third-party detailer, or better yet, find an independent, highly-rated detailer yourself.
2. Interior Care:
   
   • Chalk Seats: Chalk is a light-colored interior, which can be susceptible to dye transfer from clothing like jeans. To protect the seats:
     • Leather Protection: Apply a high-quality leather protectant that adds a protective layer against dye transfer and stains. Gyeon, Colourlock, and other premium brands offer products specifically for this purpose.
     • Regular Cleaning: Wipe down the seats regularly, especially if you wear dark clothing. A leather cleaner/conditioner can help maintain the seats over time.
3. Break-In Period:
   
   • Engine Break-In: Porsche recommends a break-in period for new engines. Typically, for the first 2,000 miles:
     • Avoid full throttle and high RPMs.
     • Vary your speed and RPMs rather than driving at a constant speed for long periods.
   • Other Components: This break-in period also applies to the transmission, brakes, and tires to ensure everything seats and wears properly.
4. Additional Considerations:
   
   • Insurance: Make sure you have appropriate coverage for your new 911. Consider gap insurance if you’re financing and check with your provider about adding coverage for aftermarket modifications like PPF and ceramic coating.
   • Owner’s Manual: Take some time to familiarize yourself with the owner’s manual. Porsche vehicles are complex, and understanding the various features and maintenance requirements will enhance your ownership experience.
   • Garage Preparation: If you park the car in a garage, make sure the area is clean and that you have a proper setup for washing and maintaining the car.

Final Thoughts

Since you’re purchasing such a high-end vehicle, it’s worth investing the time and resources to protect and maintain it properly. While the dealer has been great so far, independent specialists often provide higher quality and more personalized service for things like detailing and paint protection. Enjoy your new Porsche 911!

solidgranite

Thank you @porsc992! This is immensely helpful!

Nismo240ssx

"New" these days has varied meaning, verify your warranty in service data is the date of purchase.

I have chalk and liked the colorblock product so far but it's only been a few weeks. Plenty in here have shred dye transfer is negligible FWIW.

sk911

• They are offering me the car for MSRP and no added extras. Asked for a discount and I was promptly told not happening. Can I press and maybe get something out of them? I don't need this car now. Looks like this is a car where the original buyer backed out.... It's only been at the dealer for about a week. You can always ask for a discount, but it will ultimately be a "NO". With 992.2 hitting the USA in September starting around $150K, selling a new 992.1 for $141K will not be an issue. If you don't buy it, someone else will. You could always ask for another year of service, tint or Ceramic coating.
• Assuming I take delivery tomorrow, what should I get moving on? PPF? Ceramic coating? I do not plan to track the car, fwiw. This depends on if chips and road rash bother you. It's a 911, so things will hit it in those noticeable areas. Have you priced PPF....full PPF covering can run up to $10K. Ceramic does nothing to prevent road rash. Having the dealer perform either service will cost more than taking it to a certified installer outside of the dealer...so it depends if you want to drive it unprotected or have the dealer just do it all.
• I'm worried the paint might already be somewhat compromised, so should I take it to a proper detailer immediately and have them apply ceramic coating? Can I trust the dealer to do this? Thus far, the experience has been exceptional. Why is the paint compromised...it's only been in the USA for a month. It should be very clean and detailed when you pick it up. If you are getting PPF and Ceramic, I wouldn't worry about the paint. Whoever you take it to will detail it anyway.
• Is there a break-in period? 1800 miles under 4K rpm
• Since the seats are chalk, do I need to apply something to them to prevent coloring from jeans, etc? You will need to protect the seats ...just like any other "white" leather seats
• What else am I missing? You say "you don't need this car now"...ok, so why are you buying it? Base 992.2's will be hitting the shores in about 30 days and will only be about $6-8K more than the 992.1. There are enough added options on the 992.2 to cover the additional cost...and then some.

Maskman

I just picked mine up 3 weeks ago and did
Full PPF
Ceramic..including wheels
Interior protection
Top dressing

TheDrivenGarage

If you don't need the car now, I am not sure why you would buy a 992.1 base car now? The 992.2 are soon arriving and the depreciation on the base 992.1 will be higher than getting a 992.2. There are available 992.2 base allocations. The only compelling reasons to get a 992.1 are if you are getting a manual, custom ordered a while ago, or your variant isn't released yet (,e.g. Carrera 4). Summer is winding down in the Midwest, so there is a reason that it's lasted this long in a major market (Chicago). I would push hard to be sure you get more in the deal.

breny4104

It doesn't appear that you haven't done too much research into the 992. Which is fine, I've done that before but not on a Porsche. I got an allocation without much research but I had 6 months to research, spec and dream, and hang out on renlist. I can tell you it is an outstanding car and you should love it as long as you don't get buyers remorse.

PPF up to you, but do it aftermarket.

They may try to get you to get some additional things like Porsche wheel and tire insurance, extended warranty, etc... wheel in tire is good to have. extended warranty can be good, too, but you don't have to purchase that now.. and there are aftermarket warranty services that are pretty good.

loxxrider

Straight copy and paste from ChatGPT eh? It's super helpful advice indeed, but it's useful for others to know that this is not coming from your own experience.

division

ChatGPT and it's not even accurate. You already get the first service taken care of, they already give you free crap, and floormats are included. Also, if you try to play whatever your version of hardball is and walk away, the dealer won't care a bit; someone else will swoop in and buy the car. If you like the car, get it.

solidgranite

Hmmmm.... That's a lot to chew on and hard to disagree with. Thank you for the honest and upfront feedback.

solidgranite

Couple quick comments...

I've been researching and looking at 992.1s for probably a year. My wife is a factor in all of this as well, as she loves this particular spec w/ the colors and wheels. She's as happy or happier than I am about this purchase. I totally understand that the .2s are coming in a month or so, but I don't love some of the changes. Especially the disappearance of the analog tach and twist to start. Maybe i'm way off, but in 5 years, 10 years the 992.1 could be considered more desirable because it's the last 911 w/ the analog tach.

Perhaps I tell the dealer, "Hey, I think I'd rather just order a '25 for all the various reasons and wait until Spring." Maybe they come back with a discount on the 24?

I built out a .2 in the configurator last night and I ended up at 149k and that included club leather and other goodies this .1 does not have. However, you cannot get the same ED wheels on the .2 and I do love them!

Onami

You aren't getting a discount on a 24 or a 25...

alaris

Wow, heritage interior and the aurum wheels, amazing combo

ipse dixit

No one needs a 911, at least not in the literal sense. And maybe not even in the figurative sense

People just want a 911.

For the OP, I get the temptation of taking the 992.1 now versus waiting for the 992.2. The key point here is "waiting".

Buy this car tomorrow (or now, it's today), and you get to drive the car today. Wait for the 992.2? That's a good 4-6 months out.

So to use the original nomenclature ... the OP needs the car because the OP wants to drive it today.