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03-06-2019, 01:09 PM
#61
I don't know if I would go as far as only covering liability full time on my 997 but there are definitely insurance savings when you don't have a lien. This doesn't apply to companies like Lightstream where they are giving you a title with an unsecured loan. For one, Insurance companies provide some level of gap insurance which costs you, especially required if you are buying a new car. This isn't such a big deal on a 997 as the depreciation doesn't create a gap in the loan value. Secondly, like some others I park my car in the winter months. During this time I drop my collision coverage which saves me money. Even though you are not driving the car a loan requires you to have full coverage 100% of the time.
03-06-2019, 08:29 PM
#62
Three Wheelin'
I don't think not having a lien has ever made me want to take comprehensive off. The spread just had never been enough to warrant it.
For me, comprehensive and liability with 300 or 500k limits is about a grand a year. Without comprehensive it's probably half of that? Would need to check.
I'd consider self insuring if the spread was as big as yours. There's always a number when it makes sense to take the risk.
As as for insurance companies giving you some additional discount for not having a lien. Haven't seen that.
For me, comprehensive and liability with 300 or 500k limits is about a grand a year. Without comprehensive it's probably half of that? Would need to check.
I'd consider self insuring if the spread was as big as yours. There's always a number when it makes sense to take the risk.
As as for insurance companies giving you some additional discount for not having a lien. Haven't seen that.
03-07-2019, 10:20 AM
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No full coverage is madness!
With as many accidents and Hit & Run I work / worked, there's NO WAY I'd never have full coverage.
With as many accidents and Hit & Run I work / worked, there's NO WAY I'd never have full coverage.
03-07-2019, 12:17 PM
#64
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Someone backed into my Mercedes sedan hood a few years ago at parking spot on the street - All damage repairs covered as well as a rental car which added up to $3500 and I had my liability only policy on that car.
Like I said, I've enjoyed the $60,000 in savings over the part 30 or so years by having liability coverage only.
While it's not for everyone, it is a no brainer especially if you don't use your car as a daily driver and have funds in the bank to repair your car in the event you did damage it.
I have full coverage on my Land Rover because I use it more frequently, drive in snow and tow my Airstream with it.
03-07-2019, 12:33 PM
#65
Three Wheelin'
It is all a matter of how risk adverse you are. Some cars I have do have full coverage on and some have only have liability. Makes sense for some people and others it does not.
03-07-2019, 01:56 PM
#66
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See in Socialist Seattle, you don't need to get your car inspected or prove insurance coverage in order to get your yearly licencing tabs or registration.
So any liability policy holder who has damage/vandalism or theft caused by non-insured or under-insured motorist will have full replacement value coverage on their vehicle.
Thru my Allstate broker, several years ago I was able to put my car in suspense several times during the year which was handy and saved $ - I could put it on for 30 days than in suspense - One year I did this many times.
Allstate changed their rules and now I can only put car in suspense one time per year.
03-07-2019, 02:27 PM
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Well I'm certainly glad it works out for some of you folks. No point in making the insurance companies much rich.
But for the Non-Rich folks like me and doing what I do for a living (and living in the Atlanta Area), I just can't chance it.
Cheers to those that can and can afford to gamble. Maybe if I hit the lotto someday, I'll go this route. lol
But for the Non-Rich folks like me and doing what I do for a living (and living in the Atlanta Area), I just can't chance it.
Cheers to those that can and can afford to gamble. Maybe if I hit the lotto someday, I'll go this route. lol
03-07-2019, 05:59 PM
#68
I bought a truck. Still have the 08C2S @ 128k miles. I worry about taking it on long trips.
whats the saying? 'whats better than owning a boat? having a friend that owns a boat,'
03-07-2019, 06:23 PM
#69
Three Wheelin'
Insurance unfortunately is a necessary evil in my opinion. That is why everyone who reads this post is worth more dead than alive, just like me.
06-08-2021, 08:27 PM
#70
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When you own the car outright, all you need/all that is required is liability coverage NOT comprehensive. If I cause an accident I have full liability coverage but have to pay for my car's damage.
Liability insurance on my 2007 C4S is only $750 a year added to my Allstate auto policy - Full coverage would cost me $2300 per year so I have a savings of $1550 a year only having liability coverage.
I can also put my car in "Suspense" during the winter months when I don't drive it trimming more fat off the $750 - I think last year I saved another $150
When I do the math, I have saved probably $60,000 on both my sports cars insurance premiums over 30 years.
I've never had an accident I have caused - Years ago someone did hit my 1982 911sc and they were responsible for my car's damage.
I also have a $4million Umbrella policy that will kick in on my properties and autos.
But like I said it depends on your particular financial situation.
I only drive my cars 3-4000 miles a year and drive well and in control - I'm no kid anymore and don't take the car to the limit.
Liability insurance on my 2007 C4S is only $750 a year added to my Allstate auto policy - Full coverage would cost me $2300 per year so I have a savings of $1550 a year only having liability coverage.
I can also put my car in "Suspense" during the winter months when I don't drive it trimming more fat off the $750 - I think last year I saved another $150
When I do the math, I have saved probably $60,000 on both my sports cars insurance premiums over 30 years.
I've never had an accident I have caused - Years ago someone did hit my 1982 911sc and they were responsible for my car's damage.
I also have a $4million Umbrella policy that will kick in on my properties and autos.
But like I said it depends on your particular financial situation.
I only drive my cars 3-4000 miles a year and drive well and in control - I'm no kid anymore and don't take the car to the limit.
12-08-2022, 05:01 PM
#71
Just bumping this topic.
Traditionally I have been leasing new cars or financing relatively new ones. I am now keen to get into a 997.2 but realize that most of the used car loans won't work on 10+ year old vehicles and if they do, they are only 36 month loans.
Does anyone have any recommendations of where to look?
Traditionally I have been leasing new cars or financing relatively new ones. I am now keen to get into a 997.2 but realize that most of the used car loans won't work on 10+ year old vehicles and if they do, they are only 36 month loans.
Does anyone have any recommendations of where to look?
12-08-2022, 05:21 PM
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Just bumping this topic.
Traditionally I have been leasing new cars or financing relatively new ones. I am now keen to get into a 997.2 but realize that most of the used car loans won't work on 10+ year old vehicles and if they do, they are only 36 month loans.
Does anyone have any recommendations of where to look?
Traditionally I have been leasing new cars or financing relatively new ones. I am now keen to get into a 997.2 but realize that most of the used car loans won't work on 10+ year old vehicles and if they do, they are only 36 month loans.
Does anyone have any recommendations of where to look?
lightstream.com
woodsidecredit.com
All offer long-term loans. Woodside credit will financially spank you, if you have a habit of paying off your loans early. I was penalized for this. I would use lighstream/penfed FYI.