Steph1

Yeah, but it's effin brown my wife would say !!! True that there's always the option of wrapping it another color.

Skwerl

I love brown on 911s, personally, but it seems like they always struggle on resale.

gulshan

Does anyone know why this clean carfax, I owner 2015 991 (not 997) is so cheap ? I thought racing yellow was a hot color.. No ?

http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...AA2A99FS106860

kellen

MSRP was only $86k, so its lost nearly 1/3rd of its value. Does seem like a good deal if you can take that color. Looking at carfax ParkPlace has had it for nearly a year.

I agree it's the color. The PNW isn't known for their flashy cars and showing off wealth for the most part.

Thats a good dealer up here from word of mouth.

sandwedge

Don't know. May just be more proof that the 991 isn't holding its value vs. the 997 as has been suggested more than once around here and elsewhere. Here's a 2011 997 C2S, manual like the car you're looking at, same mileage, same price but 4 years older and again, it's a S as opposed to the 2015 base car. Lots and lots of others just like it so it's not some kind of outlier.

https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...+Black+9119913

shekmark

It is a good price except it is Macadamia Brown (sp?). That is a niche color. I have seen them in person and it is beautiful and very different.

C4SDayton

She might say it is awesome brown instead. Sometimes a silver/black/gray alternative is nice.

gulshan

Yes. 991 prices are crashing into the 997 party. Just went to carmax.com and saw a 2010 997 base and 2012 base 991 both manual and both < 60k miles priced at exactly the same amount $49,998
The only thing i hate about the 991 is the size. The electric steering is not that bad. I will now test drive many 991's and be 100% sure i really want a 997 to avoid buyers remorse.
If anyone already been there done that please share you experience. ( i mean started off wanting to buy a 997 badly and ended up with a 991 for better or worse.. :-)
Here is the image i took in case the link fails
https://ibb.co/v3ZF5qB

LISsailor

According to many, the 991 is creating a lot of turbulence in the market. Currently, people are confused why the newer model is the same used value as the older. Given that people seem to prefer the 997 to 991, it would make sense that the prices will cross over very soon to show a much more clear difference in value. To me the lower-spec 991 is the next 996 although not quite as hated. It's a very "blah" car. No offense intended!

Balr14

I think your example misses a lot of meaningful points;

Options and mileage have impact on price. Probably more than age (given the small difference).
Porsche sells better in warm weather states.
Carmax does not differentiate between 997 and 991. They are all 911 to the general buying public..

EG997C2

Have you checked out CarGurus car value calculator? I've ran a handful of scenarios and it's surprisingly accurate for current marker conditions. Manual cars bring a bit more these days but unlike other sites this one at least doesn't devalue either of the options. There are obviously other factors and options but apples to apples it's a decent start.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/instantMarketValue.action

Balr14

I have run several cars through the CarGurus value calculator, too. The trade-in value they show for my car is very close to what I have been offered. The resale value is about 10% too high.