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Replacements needed for Continental DWS 19 inch for 997.2 C2
I live in the mid-Atlantic and have a daily driver 997.2 C2 with Continental DWS's that are 19 inches. As many of you may know, Conti decided to discontinue the 19 inch DWS's and so I think I am SOL as I look for replacements. Would much rather have a single set of wheels and not a summer/winter set given that I live in the mid-Atlantic and have not seen a need to go to two sets of wheels for summer and winter. We have a very short and fleeting winter here in DC. So, any recommendations for equivalent tires for the C2? I will go with 2 sets of wheels if I absolutely have to but would really prefer not to do so. thanks in advance for any advice.
Some people find installing all season tires on a 911 blasphemous in this forum I don't.. my car had Bridgestone re970as which are not being made now. I don't know if re980as comes in 997 sizes. That left me with toyo proxes 4 plus as the only decent all season option. I find them ok, as I don't push my car. They're a/s.. so they'll be ok at "all" times.. never the best in any season.
Best all-season performance tire is Michelin A/S 3+, now I have no idea if they make it in the size you need. I'd just get a set of cheap winter wheels and be done with it.
PS. I just check tirerack and there's NO all-season tire in 235/295 19" size for our cars... sorry, no option for you unless you wanna go with 18s
I liked the Michelin A/S 3+ that I had on my 128i.. very sure footed in cold and the wet as well. I've had the DWS Extreme Contact on a previous TTRS. The A/S 3+ would be a suitable replacement for that tire, I'd say a slight upgrade. Though neither tire is sticky enough for even a purely street driven 911, but if all seasons are the selection the A/S3+ are supposed to be about the best performance.
You're compromising both your winter performance and summer performance by using an all season tire. For starters, the winter tires should be narrower in the rear to help them drop through thicker snow and not float up on top of it, more like a 275 or 285. Then you want to go back to a 305 for maximum grip in the summer. The rubber compounds are also significantly different for a tire that needs to remain pliable and create grip at 0 degrees vs one that doesn't get greasy feeling at 100 degrees.
The tire is one component on a 911 where there isn't a 1 size fits all for year round use and you bought a sports car I assume for the purpose of driving it in s sporty manner, so why handicap the car's capabilities and your fun?
I have forged, polished 19" Champion RS171s for sale in The Marketplace for an upgrade as the summer set if you're interested and you could run the less-expensive OEM wheels as your winter set.
I have the 19" DWS Conti's if your interested in buying them. 2 back are almost new. 2 front have about 7500 miles left on them. I'm in NJ. let me know if you want them.
backs are 295s front are 235s. Great condition.
I agree that two sets is probably the way to go on 19’s.
For the record, though, I don’t believe that all-seasons are mediocre in all situations. At some temperatures, they probably do better than a summer time, and at some temps, better than a winter tire.
Take Chicago weather, for example, where they routinely plow the roads and the average autumn temps (with occasional snow) might be 50F. If you leave your summers on, that’s not good for freezing temps and the possibility of snow. All seasons would likely out-perform summers. But of course autumn is when you should switch to winter tires. However, we occasionally get temps in the 60’s and 70’s, and those are the perfect days for a nice drive. Except we just switched to winters, which might get slimy when pushed.
Same concept applies to Spring - some of the best times to drive are those surprisingly warm days.
What do people do, swap winters and summers every time the weather changes?
In Europe locations, such as Poland, they have two sets as required by law. Reasons include lack of plowing, lack of salting, and more curvy roads, not to mention, they take safety more seriously.
My only point is: one size fits all still fits some perfectly. Your location, weather, elevation and other factors should drive your decision unique to YOUR situation.
And by the way, all seasons can be OK for the occasional track day. I was 3:01 around Autobahn Full Track in my 99 996 C2 on AS3+ whereas my friend was 3:00 in his E46 M3 on PSS4’s. We passed McLarens, Ferrari’s, 997TTs and others. So again, there are times when all-seasons can make sense.
But issue is, there's NO All-Season tire in our sizes whatsover. So, the debate is a pointless debate if you can't get any tire for it.
OP, I'd probably buy the used Conti's for sale, if you were happy with em and then go with 2 sets on your next set as there won't be any more of these available.
I'm having a similar challenge, in the Bay Area where it's both too hot for winters in the city and too cold for summers up in Tahoe where the skiing is.
Tire Rack still has the DWS 06 listed in 285/30/ZR19, but I don't know whether giving up 20mm of rubber a side is a good trade.
07-15-2018 | 11:15 PM
Replacements needed for Continental DWS 19 inch for 997.2 C2
I don't.. my car had Bridgestone re970as which are not being made now. I don't know if re980as comes in 997 sizes. That left me with toyo proxes 4 plus as the only decent all season option. I find them ok, as I don't push my car. They're a/s.. so they'll be ok at "all" times.. never the best in any season.
