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I know I am kind of preaching to the choir on this subject but while watching the Mecum auction today and seeing what people are spending on old muscle cars ( this is the only purple yurple hemi with a shaker hood and owned by Frank ) going for $200k and more, I realized that some variant of the 911 and most likely one of the 997s or a mezger turbo is probably the biggest bang for the buck in autodom.
There might be cars that out Porsche a Porsche but even if they do - they're not a Porsche.
Depends on what you mean as far as "bang for the buck"
As far as performance value.. the 911 is not even in the top 5 most likely.
I'm gonna go with the Corvette as an easy winner. As much as I love the Germans and their cars, the yanks have them beat for value. I have no desire for a Corvette, but objectively I can't think of any car more efficient in dollars to performance ratio. It only gets more clear when considering upgrades and modification. My feelings about Corvettes aside, just talking literal performance to dollars spent.
as long as you never have to make a turn or drive in wet weather that would work. so in the real world, or on anything other than a 1/4 mile dragstrip, prob not the best option.
Moniker for this hammer is The Beast. Many say this is the best BMW ever. I owned this 2002 for three years and heartily agree.
I nominate this: BMW E39 M5.
Moniker for this hammer is The Beast. Many say this is the best BMW ever. I owned this 2002 for three years and heartily agree.
I nominate this: BMW E39 M5.
Depends on what you mean as far as "bang for the buck"
As far as performance value.. the 911 is not even in the top 5 most likely.
I'm gonna go with the Corvette as an easy winner. As much as I love the Germans and their cars, the yanks have them beat for value. I have no desire for a Corvette, but objectively I can't think of any car more efficient in dollars to performance ratio. It only gets more clear when considering upgrades and modification. My feelings about Corvettes aside, just talking literal performance to dollars spent.
I see these cars being in different classes - I was thinking more along the lines of Aston Martin, BMW, Jaguar, Ferrari, Lambo, Lotus, Maserati, Mercedes, etc who all have prices in the same range as 911s but don't match up to the performance and overall quality of a Porsche. Cars like the Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, etc AFAIK don't approach the quality and finish of the cars I listed.
There are a lot of interesting cars in the $35-100K price range - DB9, most Lotus, a handful of Ferraris, Maseratis, tons of Mercs but bang for the buck comes down to performance, quality, every day drivability and dependability.
For about the same price as the car I bought, I could have also bought a 2011 SL 63 AMG but even with 518 hp the Merc doesn't perform as well as the C4s.
SL 65 AMGs also fall in this range but those headaches are beyond the capabilities of my neurologist.
Moniker for this hammer is The Beast. Many say this is the best BMW ever. I owned this 2002 for three years and heartily agree.
I nominate this: BMW E39 M5.
Maybe on acquisition cost, but my brother owned this generation of M5. Think he bought it for around $12k and over the 5 years or so he owned it spent about $15k in upkeep and maintenance - that ain't Bang for the Buck in my book.
You've got a point. I put a lot of money into this one, but most of it was to bring it up to snuff after years of neglect by POs. It never put me on the side of the road though, so I was impressed by the reliability.
BMWs are the worst German car. People buy them because they think they are hip, but they are pretty junk and really don't drive that well. My 2017 M3 Competition Package just sits in the garage. I had an M5 once and will never own another BMW out of warranty after that. That POS cost more than my Ferraris to keep running and candidly, BMW don't really even drive that well.
My buddy that owns a shop and specializes in German cars says he can have 10 Mercedes and Porsches and one BMW at his shop and every time it will be the BMW that won't start. Audis aren't much better, but they are definitely better than BMWs when it comes to long term reliability.
You've got a point. I put a lot of money into this one, but most of it was to bring it up to snuff after years of neglect by POs. It never put me on the side of the road though, so I was impressed by the reliability.
I don't think his ever stranded him either. He had a joke that every time the check engine light came on it was $3,000 but he also didn't work on it himself so was paying dealer repair rates.
I don't think his ever stranded him either. He had a joke that every time the check engine light came on it was $3,000 but he also didn't work on it himself so was paying dealer repair rates.
Owning a modern BMW out of warranty without having real skills in INPA computer software is disastrous to one's wallet. My SO's mini countryman threw an epically weird code just yesterday..it was a corroded connector and I fixed it in about 5 minutes.
That said, If one DOES know INPA really well, BMW's are a second hand bargain because of their massive depreciation. Armed with all the software, they are also quite easy to fix.
06-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Biggest bang for the buck?
