15 GTS or 17 S
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15 GTS or 17 S
Hello Porsche Enthusiasts,
I am a newbie but have been lurking around and educating myself for a while as I am seriously considering a 911 purchase.
Always loved Porsche but never owned one for family reasons, now at 61 I would like to buy one sol don't regret that I have not owned a Porsche during my lifetime.
I need your opinions as to which one to go for as I am torn between these two Vehicles
2015 911GTS M/T 22000 miles, CPO
2017 911S M/T plenty of options 2100 miles (Chrono, full leather, High end Burmister, adaptive seats, premium package and so on).
Price wise they are within one thousand between them, so it is not a factor.
For me no track or racing, just cruising around and punch it once a while. Prefer the softer ride.
Driven 997.2 but no 991 and will do that shortly
Typically keep the car 2 to 3 years then trade it in.
I appreciate your input.
I am a newbie but have been lurking around and educating myself for a while as I am seriously considering a 911 purchase.
Always loved Porsche but never owned one for family reasons, now at 61 I would like to buy one sol don't regret that I have not owned a Porsche during my lifetime.
I need your opinions as to which one to go for as I am torn between these two Vehicles
2015 911GTS M/T 22000 miles, CPO
2017 911S M/T plenty of options 2100 miles (Chrono, full leather, High end Burmister, adaptive seats, premium package and so on).
Price wise they are within one thousand between them, so it is not a factor.
For me no track or racing, just cruising around and punch it once a while. Prefer the softer ride.
Driven 997.2 but no 991 and will do that shortly
Typically keep the car 2 to 3 years then trade it in.
I appreciate your input.
Last edited by ragabnh; 04-21-2018 at 09:33 PM.
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GTS all the way....especially since you flip cars in 2-3 years. It will hold its value better than the S....and word is still out on the all turbo 911 lineup and how they will be received.
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Since you are going in now, get the 991.
I am a 997 guy and prefer that body. But a 991 is newer and would have more creature comforts.
Ive owned a 991 GT3 and its much more comfortable and softer than my old 997 C4S.
I am a 997 guy and prefer that body. But a 991 is newer and would have more creature comforts.
Ive owned a 991 GT3 and its much more comfortable and softer than my old 997 C4S.
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I prefer the naturally aspirated motor over the turbo ones. I just feel they drive and sound better. Just my opinion. Best to drive both and decide for yourself.
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This is a tough decision.
GTS is a great car all around: performance, looks, options
991.2 Carrera S with its turbo engine can easily be tuned to produce 500 hp (if that is your thing). Personally I love the turbo bump and in my mind I would be closer to the 911 Turbo (holy grail car). But the Carrera S is not all wheel drive and has the narrow body style which I don't like as much.
I would try to find a 991.2 Carrera 4S.
CF
GTS is a great car all around: performance, looks, options
991.2 Carrera S with its turbo engine can easily be tuned to produce 500 hp (if that is your thing). Personally I love the turbo bump and in my mind I would be closer to the 911 Turbo (holy grail car). But the Carrera S is not all wheel drive and has the narrow body style which I don't like as much.
I would try to find a 991.2 Carrera 4S.
CF
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Go to the 991 board as you are in the the section discussing 2005 - first half of 2012 models.
Both are incredible cars, but the 2017s are amazing. The 991.2 turbos are so much better than and have so much more potential than the NAs, but go to the 991 board and you will hear from guys having made the same decision and having experience in both vehicles. Here, you may be getting advise from those who have never driven either car.
Both are incredible cars, but the 2017s are amazing. The 991.2 turbos are so much better than and have so much more potential than the NAs, but go to the 991 board and you will hear from guys having made the same decision and having experience in both vehicles. Here, you may be getting advise from those who have never driven either car.
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Many guys on the 991 board have owned a selection of 997s and 99.1s before purchasing the 991.2 and have first hand knowledge about the pros and cons of the 997 v. 991.1 v. 991.2.
I have had a 997.1 turbo, 997.2 turbo, 997 GT3 Cup, 997.2 C4S and a 997.2 cab. I had a 991.1 GT3 and now have a 991.2 turbo. No GTSs, but I have driven them both on and off the track.
My personal favorites right now (money no object) are the 2017s from a performance, feel and drivability stand point, but aesthetically I absolutely love the looks of a 2015 GTS Targa. The Targas are gorgeous and I was tempted to go Targe route instead of my 991.2 turbo cabriolet.
The 991.2s are just never level though and a 2017 C2S is plenty.
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GTS. The GTS is always sportier and has better looking body options than the non-GTS. Also, prefer the normally aspirated motor to the Turbo ones, unless its actually the Turbo model.
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The general rule is: buy the newest and best condition car you can afford.
If you flip cars, the GTS will be further down on the depreciation curve and give you a better return on investment. Read that as a lower loss. Neither car is going to appreciate in the near future.
Both cars are going to be a cushy, civilized ride that is easy to live with and great street performance.
If you don't intend to track the car, give an autocross a try. It's the safest way to have fun with your car. You only need invest in a helmet (and they look great sitting in the back seat ;-) ).
If you flip cars, the GTS will be further down on the depreciation curve and give you a better return on investment. Read that as a lower loss. Neither car is going to appreciate in the near future.
Both cars are going to be a cushy, civilized ride that is easy to live with and great street performance.
If you don't intend to track the car, give an autocross a try. It's the safest way to have fun with your car. You only need invest in a helmet (and they look great sitting in the back seat ;-) ).
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RE: Next Level stuff
Just how good the Base 2017 991.2 C2S is a bit staggering when putting it into perspective.
Various Ring times:
997 C2S - 7:56
997 GT3 driven by Walter Rohl nonetheless - 7:42
991.1 GTS 7:38
991.1 GT3 - 7:31
991.1 GT3 RS - 7:28
2017 991.2 C2S - 7:30
2017 991.2 GTS - 7:26 & 7:22 on Rs.
Just how good the Base 2017 991.2 C2S is a bit staggering when putting it into perspective.
Various Ring times:
997 C2S - 7:56
997 GT3 driven by Walter Rohl nonetheless - 7:42
991.1 GTS 7:38
991.1 GT3 - 7:31
991.1 GT3 RS - 7:28
2017 991.2 C2S - 7:30
2017 991.2 GTS - 7:26 & 7:22 on Rs.
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Can you point me to a source for those lap times (esp. the 997 C2S, as I can't find a 7:56 time for it)?
I’ve used the following, but I’ve never found a compiled list of Porsche’s own official times. I’m always on the hunt...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...eife_lap_times
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...en/supertests/ (which I particularly like for the consistency of approach)
Thanks.
Karl.
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Morning Doug!
Can you point me to a source for those lap times (esp. the 997 C2S, as I can't find a 7:56 time for it)?
Ive used the following, but Ive never found a compiled list of Porsches own official times. Im always on the hunt...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...eife_lap_times
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...en/supertests/ (which I particularly like for the consistency of approach)
Thanks.
Karl.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife