997 Turbo or Lotus Evora S!
#18
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I chose between a Lotus and a Porsche before finally deciding for Porsche.
One reason was actually a thread in the Lotus forum where one owner (who came from a Porsche) said his P looked new inside when he traded it back after, let's say 5 years and he said the Lotus he now was driving looked exactly as old as it was (5 years). It didn't age gracefully.
I could think about a Lotus in the future but then it must be more of a track car. The Porsche is a better allrounder IMO. Maybe the usage could be a deciding factor?
One reason was actually a thread in the Lotus forum where one owner (who came from a Porsche) said his P looked new inside when he traded it back after, let's say 5 years and he said the Lotus he now was driving looked exactly as old as it was (5 years). It didn't age gracefully.
I could think about a Lotus in the future but then it must be more of a track car. The Porsche is a better allrounder IMO. Maybe the usage could be a deciding factor?
#23
I chose between a Lotus and a Porsche before finally deciding for Porsche.
One reason was actually a thread in the Lotus forum where one owner (who came from a Porsche) said his P looked new inside when he traded it back after, let's say 5 years and he said the Lotus he now was driving looked exactly as old as it was (5 years). It didn't age gracefully.
I could think about a Lotus in the future but then it must be more of a track car. The Porsche is a better allrounder IMO. Maybe the usage could be a deciding factor?
One reason was actually a thread in the Lotus forum where one owner (who came from a Porsche) said his P looked new inside when he traded it back after, let's say 5 years and he said the Lotus he now was driving looked exactly as old as it was (5 years). It didn't age gracefully.
I could think about a Lotus in the future but then it must be more of a track car. The Porsche is a better allrounder IMO. Maybe the usage could be a deciding factor?
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Originally Posted by Robocop305
You can't compare the built quality of both. Definitely, Porsche has a superior built quality. The interior of the Elise or Exige is very plain. The Lotus parts cost a lot less and easy to replace. I bought the Elise for one simple reason, to connect to the road and have lots of fun without braking the bank. Additionally, since they are so rare to see, people are usually fascinated when spotted on the streets.
#26
Yes and that is what appeals to me for a fun-car. Stripped from most things. Only the essentials. That's why I might end up buying one and was close to buying one. But then it will not be my daily driver or commuter car to work that i use the Porsche for at least a few days a week. It would rather be the curve carving tool for weekend fun and track days.
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You can't compare the built quality of both. Definitely, Porsche has a superior built quality. The interior of the Elise or Exige is very plain. The Lotus parts cost a lot less and easy to replace. I bought the Elise for one simple reason, to connect to the road and have lots of fun without braking the bank. Additionally, since they are so rare to see, people are usually fascinated when spotted on the streets.
#28
Are you serious? The 2ZZ engines are dirt cheap and super reliable. You can get a nicely built one for less than $5k from Monkey Wrench Racing.
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Just because it is same or similar engine and transmission as Celics GTS, does not mean it will necessary be interchangeable. Lotus balked a couple of times on my transmissions before my dealer and I put pressure on them and they covered them. At the time, I looked into options and there were none except a $17k + transmission. I was told the generic Toyato would not fit or mate with the engine.
A lot of other guys had also looked back then because 2ng gear synchros were failing left and right on these things. The engine let go on highway while accelerating and there was never any concern articulated about warranty coverage, but I saw final bill. Seem like I scanned net and made a few just in case calls and there were no options back then. I did do a search a couple of years ago for replacement engines and transmissions and saw some used for reasonable prices on eBay
My woes are well chronicled on Lotus Talk. I thought they were going to deny last transmission so I went public about how big of a a POS those cars were. David I believe his name was from Atlanta called me and said they would cover if I took that last post down, but I think most of it is still up. That was around March or April 2009. I think I am Doug H on there as well.
#30
That must have been issues that occurred years ago. You hardly see anybody today talking about engine failure or issues. You can also find a used drivetrain for less than $5k. Also, I hear drivetrain parts are all available from a Toyota dealership.