Sell car before or after maintenance?
#16
And these cars are approaching the point where a lot of buyers will be doing routine maintenance themselves.
The purpose of doing the maintenance would be that the cost of that maintenance would be recouped in the sales price. If a significant percentage of potential buyers wouldn't pay that cost, then it's a losing proposition if you sell to one of them. And for the buyers who care and would pay a premium for the maintenance being done, you can cover that contingency by taking a deposit and having the work done before they pick the car up. Win/win.
Paying for it proactively has too much potential downside.
#17
I've met plenty of 996 and 997 owners who have never heard of an IMS bearing. Who is to say the person who buys the OP's car isn't one of those people?
#18
Thats true too, but consider what happens if you sell a car with the IMS risk and at least don't mention it and they don't know anything about it, and it grenades. Thats going to get messy. If I was selling to a private party I would mention the IMS upfront as not being done. If you sell to Carmax or a dealer, then sure, just drop it off. Let them deal with it. Read the 996 and 997.1 comments and ads on Barnfinds and bring a trailer, within two comments its mentioned. Good ads say up front what the situation is.
The IMS does not have to be done on every car. There is a small percentage of IMS failures...
It seems that well maintained higher mileage cars have a smaller occurrence of IMS failures.
#19
Exactly. There is nothing to disclose. You are not expressing or implying any warranty. It's an as is sale and the chances of anything going wrong are anywhere from 1-5% depending on the source.
#20
Here goes......
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ale-997-a.html
Since we can't discuss price over in market place....feel free to offer any comments up here.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ale-997-a.html
Since we can't discuss price over in market place....feel free to offer any comments up here.
#21
Here goes......
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ale-997-a.html
Since we can't discuss price over in market place....feel free to offer any comments up here.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ale-997-a.html
Since we can't discuss price over in market place....feel free to offer any comments up here.
GLWS
#22
I feel like an idiot for never picking up on this. The water pump on my car has a 2006 date stamp and I had assumed the pump had been replaced. It never occurred to me the engine had been replaced! I had a PPI done by Rusnak Porsche in Pasadena prior to purchase and they didn't mention anything. Turns out after some research, I have a MY 2006 Engine. Current engine in the car is M96/0569611572. That corresponds with the water pump date. It took several phone calls to get anywhere with Beverly Hills Porsche who sold the car new and serviced it from 2/05 through the end of 2008. Finally one of their service advisors called me back and confirmed the IMSB failure on the original engine and a new replacement engine in November, 2006.
For the last 5 years I've been thinking about my small single row IMSB, just like that I have a bigger 06-08 IMSB!
For the last 5 years I've been thinking about my small single row IMSB, just like that I have a bigger 06-08 IMSB!
#24
Thats true too, but consider what happens if you sell a car with the IMS risk and at least don't mention it and they don't know anything about it, and it grenades. Thats going to get messy. If I was selling to a private party I would mention the IMS upfront as not being done. If you sell to Carmax or a dealer, then sure, just drop it off. Let them deal with it. Read the 996 and 997.1 comments and ads on Barnfinds and bring a trailer, within two comments its mentioned. Good ads say up front what the situation is.
1-7 % life time risk in 996 and 1% in 997 after 2005.
This IMS thing is out of control.
Dont forget to post a link for the other 49 known failure modes.
#25
#27
I've owned my 2005 C2 for 5 years now, it's been great but I'm ready to experience something different. Here's the question I'm kicking around. Car just hit 60k miles and is on the original IMS, so should I list car with a price in mind that new owner will handle service/IMS? Or should I have the service and IMS done and list the car at a higher price?
Personally I'd want to buy the car cheaper and get the work done so I can use my shop, and choose exactly what to do. My feeling is that's not the general consensus though and people want turn-key ready to go.
Thoughts?
Personally I'd want to buy the car cheaper and get the work done so I can use my shop, and choose exactly what to do. My feeling is that's not the general consensus though and people want turn-key ready to go.
Thoughts?
#29