Crap - 997.2 clutch just went - Cost?
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Does 14.5 hours labor seem really high? I had a friend with a older rs6 and it has a real short timing belt service (every 30K). The audi dealership tried to charge like 3k in labor. If at $150 an hour thats, 20 hours to change a belt. Smells fishy, and it was. I have a feeling a good factory trained dealership mechanic can do it faster than 14.5 hours. I could be wrong. But even a 3 hour difference should save 15% off the bill.I will say about the towing, the basic AAA package is a waste because you only get a 5 mile free tow radius. The second tier gets a 100 mile radius, that opens up a lot of options for service work. It has came in handy a lot.
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Not typical on either of my 997.1 cars, so might be something going on there too.
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Earlier in the this thread, both CAVU and cutlass476 said the quoted/charged labor effort was 14.5 hours. So I'm assuming the book time is that...
CAVU - https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post14583545
cutlass476 - https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post14675220
Probably. But think about it from the Shop's perspective...
On some jobs they'll come out ahead (i.e. it'll take them less time), but there's some percentage of jobs that will have issues (corroded bolts, etc.) and will take longer than that. So when quoting a fixed price, you need margin and I assume the book time of 14.5 hours has some built in. Otherwise it'd be a straight Time & Materials (T&M) quote, but most customers are not willing to accept an open ended job/price like that.
Karl.
CAVU - https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post14583545
cutlass476 - https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post14675220
On some jobs they'll come out ahead (i.e. it'll take them less time), but there's some percentage of jobs that will have issues (corroded bolts, etc.) and will take longer than that. So when quoting a fixed price, you need margin and I assume the book time of 14.5 hours has some built in. Otherwise it'd be a straight Time & Materials (T&M) quote, but most customers are not willing to accept an open ended job/price like that.
Karl.
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Around here if you pay the full 14.5 hours of labor at typical indy rates ($160-$175/hr), or dealer rates (typically $225/hr), you'd be looking at $2,300 to $3,200 in labor.
Karl.
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When I quoted my 997.2 out last December I was told it was 10.9 hours and the Indy rate was $115 an hour in Houston.
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Honestly at 52k. I would put another 50k on it before doing it. I did mine at 100k and it still had life left in the clutch. There is a super helpful thread that is like 8 pages long that is super helpful. Do a search for it and it goes through all the stuff you would need to do.
#55
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Sucks that this happened but I spent $3,300 18 years ago replacing the clutch on my '88 Carrera so this seems pretty reasonable, relatively speaking. Glad you got it sorted out.
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Well...got a new clutch and flywheel. While in there they replaced the RMS as well. Night and day. Unreal, honestly. Since I got the car about a year ago, the clutch has always been very heavy. The new one is much lighter and smoother, lower friction point in the pedal travel (this is neither positive nor negative imo but just different) , and there is less drivetrain vibration as well. What a difference. Downside is...$4400 for all this. Well, hopefully I get over 100k on this clutch.
#57
You know my clutch has always seemed stiff. Ive worried that maybe clutch is going bad, but I found a receipt for heavy duty clutch pedal return spring. Not sure why previous owner would want it that stiff.
#58
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Wow that is the most expensive cost I have heard for a clutch.
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I wasn't aware of this feature when I bought my -06 C4S (private party transaction) so didn't give much thought to the heavy clutch (first 997) but in retrospect, clearly the original owner lacked some skill in driving a manual since the car had less than 10K miles on it. When I traded it about 35K miles later the clutch was still working fine but was at that point really heavy and clearly on its last leg. Strangely enough the dealer I traded with didn't even drive the car when I brought it in. Just walked around it with a paint meter. Had they driven it I'm pretty sure they would have deducted a clutch job from the trade in price they gave me.