wwilliams88

2009 C2 with PDK, no failure 108000 miles

Airbag997

How many here have tracked regularly with 1st gen PDK no issues? What's your mileage if so.

Scott_997

I just want to add something to the thread about 997.2 PDK I had a 09 I put over 50,000 miles on. I have heard from other owners as well, the 09's have increased oil consumption, more then my 997 GT3 did. It isn't a problem but something to be aware of if your looking for a newer 911.

DC911S

My 09 used all of 200 ml of oil in a year. Thats with 10K miles of usage.

Wayne Smith

While we're at it, from 35K to almost 105K miles with oil changes every 5K ... 7.5 quarts out and the same back in every time. No additions in between. Yes, some people have seen oil burning, but in general the 9A1 does not seem to be plagued by this.

Nor is the PDK plagued from what I can see. We're at 9% in a poll that is biased toward posting an insanely inflated value.

Just saying ...

alexb76

Still valuable info. It's good to keep track of issues, which mostly are electrical.

Doug H

And you care because your 997.1 has a pdk? or its just nice to have a 997.2 failure related poll with all the 997.1 catastrophic failure polls?

I tried to keep abreast of this issue and spoke to friends that are techs at 2 dealers. Neither has seen a pdk failure in a 997.2, but have replaced a pdk in a Panamera and a 991.1. In contrast, both had seen a handful of 997.1 IMS failures. Not scientific, but not insignificant.

I have had pdks in a 997.2 turbo purchased new and daily driven, 991.1 GT3, C4S cab, Macan S (wife's DD) and her current C2 cab with no issues. I, however, was sufficiently concerned about the pdk in my wife's current C2 cab purchased in May for the summer to buy a Fidelity warranty just because it had a pdk. Car made it through summer and is now listed for sale.


RE: pdk service

I know a lot of guys here use Indies and do stuff themselves. Don't, however, cut corners on the pdk service. Even if you have only 20,000 miles, the pdk is supposed to be serviced at 6 years. We serviced the wife's pdk right after buying her 2010 C2 in May and it made a noticeable difference.


RE: 50,000 + miles pdk failures in poll

How many of these 50,000 plus mile failures truly had a proper and timely pdk service before the failure? If the pdk went out after 50,000 miles and the pdk was not serviced, that is on the owner and not the pdk.

Launch997

2009 C4S Launch Edition, 33k miles. No PDK issues.

Maan

71k miles on a 2009 C2S. No PDK failure (voted for the wrong option, sorry)

Dartmouth

71,000 miles and no failures on my 2009 4S Cab's PDK. Knock wood. PDK Fluids changed at Porsche at 60K miles.

sandwedge

Important or not, I don't know but there are two posts about failures under 30,000 miles (posts # 5 & 13) but poll results only shows one.

docdrs

probably as P#13 did not vote, but Maan misreported so its a wash

sandwedge

Yup. The failure rate is obviously very low but so damn expensive when they happen which is the only reason it's discussed to begin with. Just like IMS on the .1 cars. My CPO coverage expires end of year and I'm getting a Fidelity policy only because of the PDK. I would be 100% comfortable with a 997.2 out of warranty as long as it was a 6sp manual.

Airbag997

With core exchange it's only ~$11k. If you can afford a 911, $11k shouldn't scare you IMO.

DC911S

Labor adds a few more thousand to that, and it's not a DIY. I'll agree that for a brand new 911 owner 15 or 20K is what they makes in a day of hedge fund returns while they fret about ordering deviated stitching. For a second or third owner and enthusiast with a family and kids, and a wife that watches these things...perhaps not.