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Old 05-13-2013, 06:24 AM
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Buddy of mine blew a coolant pipe and he only street drives it and wasn't even getting on it.
Old 05-13-2013, 11:24 AM
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Buddy of mine blew a coolant pipe and he only street drives it and wasn't even getting on it.
A single owner car?

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Old 05-13-2013, 01:11 PM
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Hope he know to file a complaint. They are failing on & off the track.
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Originally Posted by Gofishracing
Hope he know to file a complaint. They are failing on & off the track.
Failied off the track after having been previously tracked??

Where they fail is not the issue. The issue is what they have been subjected to.
Old 05-15-2013, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dock
I haven't read the GT3 warranty.
I've now been told that the GT3 warranty reads like the 996 Turbo warranty.
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Ok Dock.
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Originally Posted by Gofishracing
Ok Dock.
I had left an opened statement in a previous post of mine and wanted to offer new information.

Hope you're not concerned that Porsche attorneys will read this thread and figure out a new angle in their defense, as I assure you they have already nailed down their legal line of reasoning.
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I know a few lawyers that filed a complaint. We'll see. Do you have any comments on the CL's?
Old 05-19-2013, 10:49 AM
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Design flaw is design flaw...nhtsa is not a court of law...

It puts people physically behind these cars at risk.

Dock, this has affected all of these cars' resale value no matter what you may think about it. Your car too. People are selling these cars and noting in classified ads here and there now that the coolant issue has been fixed. Once that is an expectation of the buyer, your saying your car is stock...without the fix...is stock without the fix. Can you guarantee your car won't leak?

Personally, it is in the owners' interest for financial and safety issues to have this fixed. Porsche screwed up and got caught...they've known about this for a long time (as they engineered a fixed supposedly). The NHTSA can get their hands on the dealer documents from Porsche saying x, y, and z. Porsche must know this. Frankly, given the profit margin on these cars, Porsche should just fix them and move on. Admitting they used a "then" best idea and just got burned. Happens. For me, it would be refreshing if they spun this as cutting edge enginnering can sometime cut back or something like that.

Frankly, if they don't fix this, my planned order of a new P car is not going to happen. That x 4 in my lifetime......so let them dicker on pennies and lose dollars.
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Originally Posted by jcb-memphis
Design flaw is design flaw...
It has not been established that it is a design flaw.
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Your right Dock- or course. By the way - 3 new failures this weekend
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Originally Posted by Gofishracing
By the way - 3 new failures this weekend
And that establishes that it is a design flaw??
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Originally Posted by Dock
A single owner car?
Bump.
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Originally Posted by Gofishracing
3 new failures this weekend
Have these cars ever been tracked and/or modified in any way?
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It doesn't seem that there have been very many 996 Turbo coolant pipe failure issues in Europe.


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