BioBanker

I dont miss my NSX at all. The two cars handle differently, but I disliked the stock handling of the NSX after selling my previous s2000. Stock, I found the NSX to push too much and rotate too slow but I was able to change that easily with coilovers with NSXR ratios, CT front sway (left rear off), nsxr chassis bar, front clamps, etc...).

I do not feel that my turbo with pss9s is out handled by my old nsx despite the significant disadvantage of where the engine sits.

That said, Ive not pushed the turbo nearly as hard as that NSX, so headed down a fall away double apex blind corner at 100mph, I cant say how the turbo would handle.

But I can tell you that it handles way better in snow than the NSX would have!!

If you demand ultimate handling, Id look for a GT3/Exige instead.

BioBanker

Double

Kevinmacd

Nurburing tests:
Porsche 996tt 7.56 flat
Acura NSX 7.56.73-8.03

Dock

That Turbo time was not done with Porsche's best suspension...X73.

IMO, a great handling sports car is about more than objective data.

Kevinmacd

What ever you say dock! No they were both stock. Comparing apples to apples. The quicker time for the NSX was if I am not mistaken not a pure stock NSX. The majority of the data points closer to the 8.03 times

Dock

This site has the NSX-R at 8:03:86.

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.html

Dock

So you believe only objective data should be used when attempting to identify "good handling"?

jumper5836

I believe your right. Non X73 suspension and with stock tires. The stock tires were crap, half the reason why the lap times now a day are so fast are because of tire advancements.

blockhed

As someone above mentioned a 996tt with the right suspension set up and tires is hard to beat even with the weight. Most people don't even experience the cars possibilities, that heavy *** stays planted like you wouldn't believe

Mark Dreyer

My Boxster S handles way better than my TT. Of course it seems to handle better than a lot of GT3's judged by some of the track videos I watch.

Granted I have a race suspension on the Boxster but even when it was a street car the handling was sublime.

As for the Lotus, my experience from having instructed in one is it is about the best handling street car I've experienced. However probably due to the shorter wheel base, it appears to be harder to "catch" than the Boxster when at the limit of grip on the track.

BioBanker

Im fairly certain that the 7:56 time in the NSXR was not a complete lap. Most of the times I have seen for NSX-Rs are well over 8min and non-Rs are well over, well over 8 minutes.

Its still a great handling car but under 300hp doesnt give it much to work with. Mine was awesome for the 6years I had it (bought it new). I would put the NSX on par with the 911S of its time, not the turbo, and not the GT3.

Kevinmacd

BioBanker - Yup that why I posted both times 7.56.53 & 8.03.
Dock give me a break, the data shows the overall capability of the car, it is a data point that helps show the differences, is not the only data point, but it reflects a data point that can be used to provide information when it comes down to handling questions!

cyk

I just had PSS10's installed last fall and the difference is fantastic!! I felt (as most of you do) that the stock suspension was far too soft for occasional track use and "spirited" road use. I've dialed it to 8 front & rear for street use and while it's certainly a lot firmer, I don't find it to be jarring.

I've previously owned a Mazdaspeed Miata, Elise, Z4M, and C4S and can say that the TT with PSS10's is better than all of them. The Mazdaspeed and Elise were similar in that they both had spring rates that were too soft. The Z4M was overdamped, oversprung, and just plain uncomfortable....kinda like an 80's musclecar. The stock C4S was, as you can guess, similar to the stock TT but oddly felt a bit more nimble....possibly due to lighter weight?

Anyhow, I'd say money well spent on the suspension upgrade.....enjoy!

cyk

I just had PSS10's installed last fall and the difference is fantastic!! I felt (as most of you do) that the stock suspension was far too soft for occasional track use and "spirited" road use. I've dialed it to 8 front & rear for street use and while it's certainly a lot firmer, I don't find it to be jarring.

I've previously owned a Mazdaspeed Miata, Elise, Z4M, and C4S and can say that the TT with PSS10's is better than all of them. The Mazdaspeed and Elise were similar in that they both had spring rates that were too soft. The Z4M was overdamped, oversprung, and just plain uncomfortable....kinda like an 80's musclecar. The stock C4S was, as you can guess, similar to the stock TT but oddly felt a bit more nimble....possibly due to lighter weight?

Anyhow, I'd say money well spent on the suspension upgrade.....enjoy!

Silberwolfen

That seems to be what I hear. I have the PSS10s going on later this week. What I am wondering is what settings to start them off at. On the PSS10 the higher the number the "firmer" and on the PSS9s the lower the number the "firmer". Of course the adjustment is not with the spring rate...it's with the rebound/dampening. I hear some running 8 in the rear and 5 or 6 in the front.