OT but so what.

i feel the need to say. that while many here break dock's chops - as i used to enjoy doing for years ( and he's been known to bust a few himself )
the cops in his town - in regions 3, 4 and 6 have walked off their jobs.

i know he's not in the hood. but stay safe dock. civil war 2.0 has arrived.

sorry. now back to our regularly scheduled spark plugs.

 

Dock, I take back everything I've said about you, well almost everything. LOL

 

I stand by my statement. You're the proof. Those who haven't are quick to point out it isn't a big deal, but the reality is, if they fail, you're ****ed.

 

No you're not. If they fail, you pay to get them fixed and you spend the same amount of money at that time as if you'd done it earlier. It's not like if they fail the motor blows up and you have to pay to replace it. Almost none of us are using these cars as daily drivers, so it doesn't really matter when they go into the shop...

 

I had a fitting fail 3 hours from home. It ruined the rest of my 1/2 mile event that I paid to do (only made 2 passes), and I had to pay to tow it home at a cost of just under $1000. So, no it's not always the same amount of money and time if you don't proactively address it. That said, one of the fittings behind the alternator was the one that failed. It seems to be the most common one to fail from what I've seen on the forums. I was able to repair it with the engine in the car just by removing the airbox, y-pipe and alternator. I also pinned the 3 other fittings that are in the same spot proactively. I've now drastically reduced the chance of it happening to the other un-pinned fittings, BUT I won't be taking by car more than short distance from home until I get the rest of them pinned when I pull the motor for clutch and turbos.

 

I've had towing coverage on all my cars for years, so I won't be looking at a $1000 bill for towing. I've had to call them several times and get towed home from the track with previous cars, total bill to me? $0.00, it's well worth having. I've broken down at the track or right before a track event with many of my previous cars and while it's a bummer it's not the end of the world to lose the entry fee.

Agree to disagree with you. If mine pop off, it won't be the end of the world for me. That'll vary from person to person I suppose.

 

What towing coverage do you have that will tow you over 200 miles for no cost? AAA gold only tows 100 miles and the rest is on you at up to $4 a mile. Plus, technically they don't cover stuff that happens off road (race track), so tow driver could find you at the track and deny tow.

Either way, you stated that there was no additional cost or time associated with not pinning the fittings proactively and that simply isn't true for everyone.

I thought it was an overblown issue too until it happened to me.

 

Hagerty does. AAA does too, you just have to have the correct coverage. Never had an issue with a tow truck towing me from the paddock at the track and I told them where I was every time I called them. There was no question I was at a race track.

You quoted a very specific circumstance that related to specific events as they happened with you. As I pointed out, you could've mitigated the majority of the cost easily if you had different coverage. I stand by what I said, this isn't a big deal, certainly not enough to spend the $5000+ to do it ahead of time, as long as a decent pre-inspection on the car doesn't show something about to fail. This isn't a catastrophe if it happens. Inconvenient? Sure! If you're heading to an event that you really, really don't want to miss then maybe you do this ahead of time. Otherwise, meh...

 

AAA max is 200 miles in some areas, Hagerty max is 150 nation wide. That will mitigate some but maybe not enough.

 

Pretty sure Hagerty is 250 miles but now I'll have to call and check with them.

 

If I were to get stranded, towing cost would be the last thing I would be worried about.

 

So I need to pay more money in advance in case something happens that you already think "isn't a big deal". If it isn't a big deal why are you paying hundreds of dollars year over year for extended tow coverage? Look at the fine print in your contract, I'll bet it says tows from tracks are not covered. I know that's the case with AAA as I've done the research on it. Telling me I had the wrong coverage when the examples you give technically don't even cover the incident in question is ridiculous. Your anecdotal story about a tow from the track without issue won't help someone who gets denied a tow.

Pinning coolant lines doesn't cost $5000+.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...t-hoses-3.html

Preventatively pinning 4 of the fittings only costs a few bucks for screws, sealant/loctite, drill bit/tap, and some time for the shade tree DIY mechanic.

None of my lines showed any evidence of failure beforehand. I inspected them the week before my event.

You can "agree to disagree" all you want but you are pontificating about a situation which you personally have never dealt with and it doesn't change the fact that your original statement which I took issue with was incorrect.

 

Since I'm the originator of this thread I have come to a decision. I'm going to wait until I need other stuff done, then I'll go in and address it.

 

That too. Luckily I was with friends at the event so I didn't have to be worried about being stranded alone or riding in a tow truck for 3+ hours.

 

Sounds good. LOCK IT UP! lol