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Old 06-18-2020 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by docwyte
Pretty sure Hagerty is 250 miles but now I'll have to call and check with them.
Also none of theses tow packages is free. You have to pay for it, so you are paying one way or another.



Old 06-18-2020 | 12:29 PM
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with COVID 19 you can't ride in the tow truck so you would need to arrange alternative transport. BTW AAA picks up no problem at race track, just tell them you are spectating
Old 06-18-2020 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
Also none of theses tow packages is free. You have to pay for it, so you are paying one way or another.


Exactly, not to mention, if you are more than 150-200 miles from home and you have a failure it just adds to the cost. I did a Lake Michigan circle tour with some friends 9 months before my coolant fitting popped. If it had popped on that trip I would have needed a tow back from 500 miles. At that point I would have probably just arranged for a car shipping company or call a friend with a trailer. Either way, $$$ and time for something that can be pretty easily mitigated.

It's a known issue, not a freak thing. If someone is taking longer trips in their turbo and they don't have the lines pinned or welded, you are gambling every time.
Old 06-18-2020 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
with COVID 19 you can't ride in the tow truck so you would need to arrange alternative transport. BTW AAA picks up no problem at race track, just tell them you are spectating
With the numbers painted in shoe polish on the windows...
Old 06-18-2020 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by s65e90
I stand by my statement. You're the proof. Those who haven't are quick to point out it isn't a big deal, but the reality is, if they fail, you're ****ed.
what am i "the proof" of?

we have a decidedly different view on what is or isn't "****ed" lol
so you can "stand by" your empiricism and definitive statements at your leisure. the "reality" is simply that IF they fail, you have a mechanical failure that needs repair.

all else is henny penny sky is falling chicken**** and/or bull**** lol.

Old 06-18-2020 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by docwyte
No you're not. If they fail, you pay to get them fixed and you spend the same amount of money at that time as if you'd done it earlier. It's not like if they fail the motor blows up and you have to pay to replace it. Almost none of us are using these cars as daily drivers, so it doesn't really matter when they go into the shop...
Um, if they fail, the car loses all it's coolant. I drive my car everywhere. 3,000 mile road trips are no fun if you either have to worry about getting stranded or actually do get stranded. Especially if you're nowhere near a shop that's capable.
Old 06-18-2020 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by docwyte
No you're not. If they fail, you pay to get them fixed and you spend the same amount of money at that time as if you'd done it earlier. It's not like if they fail the motor blows up and you have to pay to replace it. Almost none of us are using these cars as daily drivers, so it doesn't really matter when they go into the shop...

Spoken like another person who def doesn't have them done. My buddy just took his motor out and the fittings pulled out in his hand. Car was running fine too. It was a disaster waiting to happen.
Old 06-18-2020 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by k9turbo
what am i "the proof" of?

we have a decidedly different view on what is or isn't "****ed" lol
so you can "stand by" your empiricism and definitive statements at your leisure. the "reality" is simply that IF they fail, you have a mechanical failure that needs repair.

all else is henny penny sky is falling chicken**** and/or bull**** lol.
Proof meaning the only people who come in here saying it's not a big issue on theses cars are the one's who haven't done it yet. It's a well documented problem on these cars, plain and simple.
Old 06-18-2020 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by s65e90
Proof meaning the only people who come in here saying it's not a big issue on theses cars are the one's who haven't done it yet. It's a well documented problem on these cars, plain and simple.
i believe you "meant" to say "the only people who come in here saying it's not a big issue on theses cars are the one's who haven't had their coolant lines fail".

because that - at least - would make sense. whether "true" or not lol.

i bet you're wearing a mask right now
Old 06-18-2020 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by k9turbo
i believe you "meant" to say "the only people who come in here saying it's not a big issue on theses cars are the one's who haven't had their coolant lines fail".

because that - at least - would make sense. whether "true" or not lol.

i bet you're wearing a mask right now
What's a mask have to do with anything? I go anywhere knowing my lines are welded to the housing, others drive and the thought of losing all their coolant is at least in the back of their mind. I chalk this one up as preventative maintenance, especially for those of us who actually drive our cars alot.
Old 06-18-2020 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mezger Man
Since I'm the originator of this thread I have come to a decision. I'm going to wait until I need other stuff done, then I'll go in and address it.
Certainly a valid decision. That was my approach, until my one of my fittings failed (at the AutoX -- but it would have happened in the canyons, otherwise).

And certainly, it's a subjective debate as to how "big of a deal" it is. I think it depends on the type of driving you're doing and where you are when it happens. If you're cruising along at normal speeds, sure, probably not a big deal. If you're WOT, it's a bit more disconcerting. And seeing a big plume of white smoke in the rearview mirror tends to raise one's blood pressure, regardless.

I don't think everyone needs to do it proactively (I didn't). But I think there's a pretty good case for it if it's in the budget.
Old 06-18-2020 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
BTW AAA picks up no problem at race track, just tell them you are spectating
So just lie to them?
Old 06-18-2020 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by s65e90
My buddy just took his motor out and the fittings pulled out in his hand.
Were any of these fittings leaking?
Old 06-18-2020 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dock
Were any of these fittings leaking?
Not leaking but only was being held in by the tension of the hose pushed against the housing.
Old 06-18-2020 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by s65e90
Not leaking but only was being held in by the tension of the hose pushed against the housing.
I think this indicates two things:

1. I think that it shows the value of preemptively pinning the fittings without pulling all the fittings and re-gluing them. If the fittings you're talking about had been pinned without re-gluing then there would be no chance of any of the fittings coming out if the glue stops providing sufficient adhesion (such as the example you have presented.)

2. It shows that fittings might not leak even when the glue isn't sufficient to hold the fittings in place.

My conclusion is that preemptively pinning coolant fittings without removing all of the fittings and re-gluing them prior to pinning has value.



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