Newbie-Advice needed asap on 2004 996TT
08-10-2017, 08:30 PM
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Thoughts on this car??? Price, condition, mods, etc??
Closer than the OR car but not X50... Nice though.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911
Closer than the OR car but not X50... Nice though.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911
08-10-2017, 09:44 PM
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FYi, 'S' was only in 2005, and all 2005 are S. It was the final gasp for 996TT's as the 911 model line rolled over to 997. It really was just an options bundle including X50 and PCCB's, plus a bold new letter on the rear badge.
PCCB brakes are absurdly expensive to replace the rotors on. So expensive that almost everyone just converts them to steel rotors and matching pads instead (~$22k+ just for four PCCB rotors, conversion to steel about $2K). They are also difficult to inspect for wear and susceptible to chipping and damage, particularly during tire changes by monkey mechanics. Extremely important to at least visually inspect the carbon rotors for physical damage as part of the PPI.
As for the 'isn't a tuned X50 even better than a tuned non-X50?' question, there are probably many many threads discussing that issue. The X50 uses bigger turbos which produce more power but are also slower to spool and have more lag... Good for some but not all applications. I wouldn't automatically assume you would prefer a tuned X50 over a tuned regular TT...
PCCB brakes are absurdly expensive to replace the rotors on. So expensive that almost everyone just converts them to steel rotors and matching pads instead (~$22k+ just for four PCCB rotors, conversion to steel about $2K). They are also difficult to inspect for wear and susceptible to chipping and damage, particularly during tire changes by monkey mechanics. Extremely important to at least visually inspect the carbon rotors for physical damage as part of the PPI.
As for the 'isn't a tuned X50 even better than a tuned non-X50?' question, there are probably many many threads discussing that issue. The X50 uses bigger turbos which produce more power but are also slower to spool and have more lag... Good for some but not all applications. I wouldn't automatically assume you would prefer a tuned X50 over a tuned regular TT...
08-10-2017, 09:46 PM
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Thoughts on this car??? Price, condition, mods, etc??
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911
08-10-2017, 09:59 PM
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BTW Folks, I want to say Thank You again to everyone for putting up with all my "NOOBIE" BS and questions. I got into this quite quick and it's taken me over. I'm trying to slow down but it's all I've thought about for a week or so now.
I do however really appreciate each and ever post offering advice, Info, and especially folks offering "Rennchecks" for me!!
Good info on the brakes.. $22K????!!!! WOW!! Yeah, count me out!! lol
Standard or X50 will do just fine for me...
As for the X50 or standard vs tuned or not, I guess it really doesn't matter. It's not like I'm going drag racing or expect to be the quickest thing on the street..lol
Heck, even a modded one won't be quite at quick as my old 7100 lb. diesel truck..lol
So, extra power is great and I'll take it but not a deal breaker.
I'm close to sea level so the X50 wouldn't be as laggy I wouldn't think. I'm used to Compound turbos vs. true "Twins" like these, where the smaller helps spool the larger.
Awesome guy you are!!! Thank you! I spoke to him a week ago but wasn't quite ready..Waiting on a call back from him today to speak again.
I'll let you know...Thanks!!
I do however really appreciate each and ever post offering advice, Info, and especially folks offering "Rennchecks" for me!!
FYi, 'S' was only in 2005, and all 2005 are S. It was the final gasp for 996TT's as the 911 model line rolled over to 997. It really was just an options bundle including X50 and PCCB's, plus a bold new letter on the rear badge.
PCCB brakes are absurdly expensive to replace the rotors on. So expensive that almost everyone just converts them to steel rotors and matching pads instead (~$22k+ just for four PCCB rotors, conversion to steel about $2K). They are also difficult to inspect for wear and susceptible to chipping and damage, particularly during tire changes by monkey mechanics. Extremely important to at least visually inspect the carbon rotors for physical damage as part of the PPI.
As for the 'isn't a tuned X50 even better than a tuned non-X50?' question, there are probably many many threads discussing that issue. The X50 uses bigger turbos which produce more power but are also slower to spool and have more lag... Good for some but not all applications. I wouldn't automatically assume you would prefer a tuned X50 over a tuned regular TT...
PCCB brakes are absurdly expensive to replace the rotors on. So expensive that almost everyone just converts them to steel rotors and matching pads instead (~$22k+ just for four PCCB rotors, conversion to steel about $2K). They are also difficult to inspect for wear and susceptible to chipping and damage, particularly during tire changes by monkey mechanics. Extremely important to at least visually inspect the carbon rotors for physical damage as part of the PPI.
As for the 'isn't a tuned X50 even better than a tuned non-X50?' question, there are probably many many threads discussing that issue. The X50 uses bigger turbos which produce more power but are also slower to spool and have more lag... Good for some but not all applications. I wouldn't automatically assume you would prefer a tuned X50 over a tuned regular TT...
Standard or X50 will do just fine for me...
As for the X50 or standard vs tuned or not, I guess it really doesn't matter. It's not like I'm going drag racing or expect to be the quickest thing on the street..lol
Heck, even a modded one won't be quite at quick as my old 7100 lb. diesel truck..lol
So, extra power is great and I'll take it but not a deal breaker.
I'm close to sea level so the X50 wouldn't be as laggy I wouldn't think. I'm used to Compound turbos vs. true "Twins" like these, where the smaller helps spool the larger.
I'll let you know...Thanks!!
08-10-2017, 10:13 PM
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Unrelated to the car itself, Is Anybody familiar with WOODSIDE CREDIT??
Spoke to them today. They finance collectable, antique, exotic cars.
Decent % rate at up to 10 years, to keep payments low. 15% DOWN require. Can prepay loan down as far as you want but you HAVE to keep the loan for 2 Years. I guess this is how they make their money.
I'm thinking of using them to keep this toy affordable and keep my cash.
Just wondering how they structure the interest...Seems it would be heavily loaded to the front part of the loan.
Anybody have dealings with them? Thoughts??
Spoke to them today. They finance collectable, antique, exotic cars.
Decent % rate at up to 10 years, to keep payments low. 15% DOWN require. Can prepay loan down as far as you want but you HAVE to keep the loan for 2 Years. I guess this is how they make their money.
I'm thinking of using them to keep this toy affordable and keep my cash.
Just wondering how they structure the interest...Seems it would be heavily loaded to the front part of the loan.
Anybody have dealings with them? Thoughts??
08-11-2017, 02:02 AM
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They had an inspector do an on-site inspection (just a very general inspection, looking at VIN numbers, actual title, car mileage, yes it starts, overall cosmetic condition), but we went from agreement / bill of sale through inspection and wire transfer of money in just a few business days. Buyer paid his portion in cash and I fed-exed the signed title directly to Woodside.
Can't speak for their interest structure, but I've seen them mentioned on Rennlist and other forum threads quite a few times. I think Barret-Jackson has a partnership with them as well...
If you need a contact over there, I can pm you the name/number of the guy who handled the transaction I was involved with... He personally shepherded the deal through.
08-11-2017, 02:26 AM
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The buyer of one of my previous cars (happened to be a supercharged Saleen S281) used Woodside credit. From a sellers perspective, they were a pleasure to work with. Very quick, very responsive.
They had an inspector do an on-site inspection (just a very general inspection, looking at VIN numbers, actual title, car mileage, yes it starts, overall cosmetic condition), but we went from agreement / bill of sale through inspection and wire transfer of money in just a few business days. Buyer paid his portion in cash and I fed-exed the signed title directly to Woodside.
Can't speak for their interest structure, but I've seen them mentioned on Rennlist and other forum threads quite a few times. I think Barret-Jackson has a partnership with them as well...
If you need a contact over there, I can pm you the name/number of the guy who handled the transaction I was involved with... He personally shepherded the deal through.
They had an inspector do an on-site inspection (just a very general inspection, looking at VIN numbers, actual title, car mileage, yes it starts, overall cosmetic condition), but we went from agreement / bill of sale through inspection and wire transfer of money in just a few business days. Buyer paid his portion in cash and I fed-exed the signed title directly to Woodside.
Can't speak for their interest structure, but I've seen them mentioned on Rennlist and other forum threads quite a few times. I think Barret-Jackson has a partnership with them as well...
If you need a contact over there, I can pm you the name/number of the guy who handled the transaction I was involved with... He personally shepherded the deal through.
Very good to know sir. I have actually already completed an application and been approved for the entire amount. I'm just waiting on which car I'm going to purchase.
08-11-2017, 08:33 AM
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Unrelated to the car itself, Is Anybody familiar with WOODSIDE CREDIT??
Spoke to them today. They finance collectable, antique, exotic cars.
Decent % rate at up to 10 years, to keep payments low. 15% DOWN require. Can prepay loan down as far as you want but you HAVE to keep the loan for 2 Years. I guess this is how they make their money.
I'm thinking of using them to keep this toy affordable and keep my cash.
Just wondering how they structure the interest...Seems it would be heavily loaded to the front part of the loan.
Anybody have dealings with them? Thoughts??
Spoke to them today. They finance collectable, antique, exotic cars.
Decent % rate at up to 10 years, to keep payments low. 15% DOWN require. Can prepay loan down as far as you want but you HAVE to keep the loan for 2 Years. I guess this is how they make their money.
I'm thinking of using them to keep this toy affordable and keep my cash.
Just wondering how they structure the interest...Seems it would be heavily loaded to the front part of the loan.
Anybody have dealings with them? Thoughts??
08-11-2017, 02:19 PM
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How about a nice 02' Speed Yellow with many nice upgrades, including FVD X50 turbos, Exhaust, GMG alloy diverter valves, 997 GT2Rs intercoolers, 91 Tunning tune, Euro OEM X73 suspension, GT3 seats, Tequipment roll bar, Yellow belts, GT2 rear seat belt delete side panels, Double din Excelon GPS head unit, Bose, Numeric shifter, Cup shifter cables, GMG adjustable sway bars, New 4 liter GT3 rs clutch package including light weight flywheel, new Clutch slave cylinder and accumulator, 997 PCCB upgraded 6 piston calipers with new upgraded slotted rotors, Aero front splitter, New tires, water pump, serpentine belt, plugs and coils.
Everything works including the rear spoiler.
I do have most of the OEM stuff, including sport seats, sway bars, shifter, radio and such.
Car has 39K miles.
Let me know what you think,
Al Z
Everything works including the rear spoiler.
I do have most of the OEM stuff, including sport seats, sway bars, shifter, radio and such.
Car has 39K miles.
Let me know what you think,
Al Z
08-11-2017, 05:25 PM
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Do they require you keep the loan for 2 years before payoff, like Woodside?