Engine Drop DIY
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Engine Drop DIY
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lots of pressure in the system to get the coolant lines welded - although my 6GT3 has only 9k miles on the clock i feel like im not going to enjoy next track season without having this job done. So my buddy (owns 6Turbo) and i have decided to get this done over the winter as a DIY project on both cars. We want to drop engines, disassemble coolant lines and get them welded at an outside company. We have a lift and a relatively well equipped shop but have never dropped an engine before - our experience is limited but we want to learn more about our cars. Is this doable or suicide ? Also, where can I get some more info about the procedure ? Nothing on RL ?
lots of pressure in the system to get the coolant lines welded - although my 6GT3 has only 9k miles on the clock i feel like im not going to enjoy next track season without having this job done. So my buddy (owns 6Turbo) and i have decided to get this done over the winter as a DIY project on both cars. We want to drop engines, disassemble coolant lines and get them welded at an outside company. We have a lift and a relatively well equipped shop but have never dropped an engine before - our experience is limited but we want to learn more about our cars. Is this doable or suicide ? Also, where can I get some more info about the procedure ? Nothing on RL ?
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What he said, but I recall seeing a very detailed 996 engine rebuild thread in the 996 forum which included details of dropping the engine.
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944Serge dropped his engine in his 4 liter build thread so it is doable as a DIY for sure.
The workshop manual has enough details about this as well, I think that is all you need when you have a lift and all the tools.
I am not sure if it is allowed to link to the manual, but Google "Porsche Manual" and it will show up. Cannell is another nice search word ;-)
The workshop manual has enough details about this as well, I think that is all you need when you have a lift and all the tools.
I am not sure if it is allowed to link to the manual, but Google "Porsche Manual" and it will show up. Cannell is another nice search word ;-)
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I have done a number of air cooled engine drops at home, usually by myself, but much easier with two people (Wife can help too as seen in picture!). The trick is to raise the car rear bumper high enough to clear the engine as you drop it down (see 3 ft ruler in picture).
You basically need to loosen/remove half shafts, any oil & water lines and electrical connections. On AC cars, the trans shifter went through the tunnel, WC cars, have the cable shifter (easier).
Once all is loosened, a balance point is found and a jack used... AC cars is where trans meets engine. Alternatively, a motorcycle jack can be used to support both sides of engine.
AC 911s were all electrically connected with a single 14 pin connector. WC cars look like they have a couple of them.
Just make sure you use jack stands before getting under the car... I believe it should be doable, might take some time, but doable... Take your time and be careful. Hope this helps!
You basically need to loosen/remove half shafts, any oil & water lines and electrical connections. On AC cars, the trans shifter went through the tunnel, WC cars, have the cable shifter (easier).
Once all is loosened, a balance point is found and a jack used... AC cars is where trans meets engine. Alternatively, a motorcycle jack can be used to support both sides of engine.
AC 911s were all electrically connected with a single 14 pin connector. WC cars look like they have a couple of them.
Just make sure you use jack stands before getting under the car... I believe it should be doable, might take some time, but doable... Take your time and be careful. Hope this helps!
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Find the 996 DYI and follow it. It's really not that hard. Take out the engine and trans as a unit. If you can buy rent or borrow a 1k trans jack you can do the whole deal standing up. The first one might take you 6 hours and the second will take 3. On the install 3 hours as well, not including the cooling system bleed. They really are a modular unit made for manufacturing assembly speed.
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IMO the most unpleasant thing in the whole procedure is messing with coolant, and there's a lot of it.
On contrary to this picture the chassis must be level to get things done properly:
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Power. Lots is good, more is better, too much is just right...
'87 951, RIP
'00 996 C2 L92U AQ / IXAA IXRB IX54 M96/7.xx G96/7.88 M030 M375 M376 M436 M476 M601 M983 ... + 991 GT3 brakes, 997 GT3 sway bars, fully monoball'd suspension, Bilstein Cup Car coilovers, do88 Big Pack ICs. 10 & 12 x 19" BBS CH-R wheels with 265/30 & 325 /30 -19 MPSC2s.
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I've been on the fence for a couple months on doing this myself. I'm really honestly not worried about anything other than being able to get the car high enough on jack stands to do it in my garage without the use of a lift.
I've found a couple local sources to do the labor for really reasonable money but I'd like the luxury of having time to get in there and clean everything to standard while it's all apart instead of rushing the job just to get it completed.
I've found a couple local sources to do the labor for really reasonable money but I'd like the luxury of having time to get in there and clean everything to standard while it's all apart instead of rushing the job just to get it completed.
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Guys,
thanks for all the great advice and encouragement. Looking forward to start the engine drop asap - will keep you posted. What else should I do while engine is out ? LWFW seems to be a must, new plugs, fuel filter - what else ? Car has 9k miles - im hoping that clutch will be still good
thanks for all the great advice and encouragement. Looking forward to start the engine drop asap - will keep you posted. What else should I do while engine is out ? LWFW seems to be a must, new plugs, fuel filter - what else ? Car has 9k miles - im hoping that clutch will be still good