WTB: GT3
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No e36 M3. Unless i can find an amazing deal on a 3 i'm going to try and work my way up the racing ranks...baby steps...baby step... Run an e36 for a couple years, then move to spec miatas, see how i do and go from there. Hopefully end up some where near racing Cup cars (I know, big dreams).
#109
E36 M is a sick platform, but IMO if you start the learning curve with a rear engine platform (since that is where you want to work your way up to) you will be much better off, just my stupid 2 cents again though!
#110
Driving skills can be developed using any vehicle. If you are starting out, you will learn faster in a slower car. Find a good instructional program like PCA or BMW CCA and get used to track driving. If you need more seat time, check out the events of other groups like Hooked on Driving, etc. It takes a couple of years of experience to get the mechanics of driving internalized.
Technical knowledge means understanding how the cars work as a foundation for refining how the car handles. To do this, you need to drive many different types of cars. The line you use around the track and techniques are completely different for a miata, civic, M3, or 911.
Lastly, race strategy needs to be learned by doing. The Spec Miata series is one of the best places to start out. It is relatively inexpensive to participate and the cars are great for learning."
With this way of thinking im in the driving skills portion. The way i see it, no need to spend money on expensive tires, brakes, pads, rotors, etc learning on a Porsche. That money can be much better allocated to track time, coaching, etc... Racing/driving a Porsche will come when either one of two happen...(1) I realize i'm not good enough (most probable case) and become and instructor and race club or (my high hopes 2) i get into a Cup car. IMO i cant lose either way.
#111
Not stupid at all. But here's how a long time PCA and BMW CCA instructor put it..."There are three areas of driver development; driving skills, technical knowledge, and race strategy.
Driving skills can be developed using any vehicle. If you are starting out, you will learn faster in a slower car. Find a good instructional program like PCA or BMW CCA and get used to track driving. If you need more seat time, check out the events of other groups like Hooked on Driving, etc. It takes a couple of years of experience to get the mechanics of driving internalized.
Technical knowledge means understanding how the cars work as a foundation for refining how the car handles. To do this, you need to drive many different types of cars. The line you use around the track and techniques are completely different for a miata, civic, M3, or 911.
Lastly, race strategy needs to be learned by doing. The Spec Miata series is one of the best places to start out. It is relatively inexpensive to participate and the cars are great for learning."
With this way of thinking im in the driving skills portion. The way i see it, no need to spend money on expensive tires, brakes, pads, rotors, etc learning on a Porsche. That money can be much better allocated to track time, coaching, etc... Racing/driving a Porsche will come when either one of two happen...(1) I realize i'm not good enough (most probable case) and become and instructor and race club or (my high hopes 2) i get into a Cup car. IMO i cant lose either way.
Driving skills can be developed using any vehicle. If you are starting out, you will learn faster in a slower car. Find a good instructional program like PCA or BMW CCA and get used to track driving. If you need more seat time, check out the events of other groups like Hooked on Driving, etc. It takes a couple of years of experience to get the mechanics of driving internalized.
Technical knowledge means understanding how the cars work as a foundation for refining how the car handles. To do this, you need to drive many different types of cars. The line you use around the track and techniques are completely different for a miata, civic, M3, or 911.
Lastly, race strategy needs to be learned by doing. The Spec Miata series is one of the best places to start out. It is relatively inexpensive to participate and the cars are great for learning."
With this way of thinking im in the driving skills portion. The way i see it, no need to spend money on expensive tires, brakes, pads, rotors, etc learning on a Porsche. That money can be much better allocated to track time, coaching, etc... Racing/driving a Porsche will come when either one of two happen...(1) I realize i'm not good enough (most probable case) and become and instructor and race club or (my high hopes 2) i get into a Cup car. IMO i cant lose either way.
I didn't even mean get the GT3 and start, but even an older NA 993, 964 or something along those line which aren't that fast but still awesome drivers, not expensive to maintain either
#112
With that said, there is nothing sweeter than zipping around a track in your dream car. I am very interested in Spec Miata, and may purchase one to get into racing. I am also looking at arrive & drive programs like Skip Barber and will look into that this winter. Like you, this track thing is now in my blood! (but is it treatable?)
Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do...
-Blake
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+1. I ran this past Sat at MMP in a DE with a 996 Cup and several spec Miatas. I was amazed at the grip the Miata's had on slicks. We ran one of the technical short courses which negated my GT3's hp advantage. After the event, I was comparing notes with one of the Miata drivers and was amazed at how low his costs were (like 5-6x lower than my own for DE - and he races!)
With that said, there is nothing sweeter than zipping around a track in your dream car. I am very interested in Spec Miata, and may purchase one to get into racing. I am also looking at arrive & drive programs like Skip Barber and will look into that this winter. Like you, this track thing is now in my blood! (but is it treatable?)
Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do...
-Blake
Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do...
-Blake
Treatable...? I dont think so... Just look at Mooty. It only gets worse
#115
Ya definitely can't wait to start working with him. Now all i need is a car. LOL!
#116
Alright so i just got word that we might have an opportunity to sell a property which opens a nice door. Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!
Edit: Mooty if you read this, send me a pm. If you've got time i'd like to buy you another cup of coffee and chat more about club racing and becoming an instructor. I've decided that for the money needed to even try racing professionally, its not worth it at this point. Well more like financially unviable.
Edit: Mooty if you read this, send me a pm. If you've got time i'd like to buy you another cup of coffee and chat more about club racing and becoming an instructor. I've decided that for the money needed to even try racing professionally, its not worth it at this point. Well more like financially unviable.
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Alright so i just got word that we might have an opportunity to sell a property which opens a nice door. Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!
Edit: Mooty if you read this, send me a pm. If you've got time i'd like to buy you another cup of coffee and chat more about club racing and becoming an instructor. I've decided that for the money needed to even try racing professionally, its not worth it at this point. Well more like financially unviable.
Edit: Mooty if you read this, send me a pm. If you've got time i'd like to buy you another cup of coffee and chat more about club racing and becoming an instructor. I've decided that for the money needed to even try racing professionally, its not worth it at this point. Well more like financially unviable.
i am out this whole week.
i'll pm you when i am back.
#118
Sounds good. Does it have any mods...? I found a couple nice ones here in the classifieds. Take a look when you get a chance (there are only two-one white one seal or slate) and let me know what you think. Have a good week. Talk to ya soon!
#120
This look pretty neat and clean. And, silver too. Miles are average.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...QQcmdZViewItem
Here is a rare color.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...QQcmdZViewItem
Here is a rare color.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...QQcmdZViewItem