MetalSolid

They're all better than sunroof because they either weight less, don't effect structurally, add safety and/or are easily removed.

[EDIT]: If the roof was made of transparent aluminum nobody would have issue with it.

MJSpeed

Excellent on tracking the car...it's nice to see the being used to its fullest!

Airbags good for safety (although I'll probably replace my steering wheel with the motorsports one).

ABS good for the safety of the majority of drivers and great for pushing really deep into a corner.

Power Steering allows you to drive for longer periods of time without fatiguing.

Windows I presume you meant power windows or heavy glass, as I've said many of times give me roll up windows or sliding lexan ones!

Seats most of us change out the factory installed Sport seats for the lighter GT3 seat or full racing seats.

Climate Control well even LeMans is making it mandatory for the closed cockpit cars. If you don't want it or need it and want to save some weight get rid of it.

Stereo...GT3's have one, I didn't even bother to look to see if mine had one.

Sunroof's don't make the car any safer or better to track it (in fact they make it heavier in the wrong place which I'm sure you already know from all the past post that it's not a good thing), and as Metalsolid said, it's heavier than the other ones mentioned and can't be removed as easily.

Flying Finn

For me (now add huge discalimer here about non airbag cars being dangerous etc.) ABS and airbag can go, in fact I've removed bags from my car even though I still have the ABS, I'd like to remove that one as well (not because of weight but because I like the feel of the non ABS better).

Power steering is the same, I'd rather have my car without it even though Porsches with power steering have very good feel.

Also the power windows and stereo are not needed althotgh I have power windows (for the ladies! ) and tiny stereo with two smallest speakers I could find (I made a deal with the wife: she wanted to have the stereo and then all my future mods were ok) , A/C in Miami I have to keep although that's quite a bit heavy. It's just that for going to work etc. I'd be sweating like a pig which is not a good thing!

However, let's get serious man, comparing all of those items there (maybe stereo can be exluded) to a sunroof just doesn't make any sense.

Sunroof is only for comfort, showoff etc. It has absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing to do with accelerating, stopping ot turning faster. Nothing.

Where as ABS, power braking, steering etc. do have. For drivers who are not so confident, good or experienced, those things will make them go little faster (hopefully) but in real life, they don't make the car slower where as sunroof does.

And just one more time, the biggest complaint here is if the sunroof is mandatory and CAN NOT be deleted. Simple as that.

As I said, if the car came without any option and then had lof of options to be added, that would be ok for me.

Then we both could be happy; you coul'd get your sunroof, chrono, stereo or whatever it is that you need and I could have my car without them.

So we'd both "win", no?

P.S. Pretty please with the sugar on the top: don't call me an "ahole" (and at least say *******, not ahole), I'm a ********.

Cupcar

Comfort and performance are essentially mutually exclusive.

A/C is in a racing car to improve the driver's performance in long races, not the car's.

Flying Finn is right on IMHO , the more flexible the ordering process, the happier GT3 customers will be....those that order a GT3 who do not understand a track oriented vs a boulevard oriented chassis will always be dissappointed with a GT3 though.

95spiderman

for sure roof should be an option for anyone to get what they want

what about colored calipers adding unsprung weight (the worst kind) and why does the ultra gt3 rs have, gasp, painted rims? does any paint help a sportscar go faster if that is the only reason for its existence? any deloreans for track days?

any other opinions on the noble which would seem to suite this group better than any p car could?

MetalSolid

Now you're being silly. Can't race without sponsors and sponsorship requires paint... With regards to Noble, people here have chosen Porsche as their team and they want that team to be the best they can, they're not gonna switch teams just because that other team has better players -- but they will switch if a bunch of hooligans join the supporters circle.

Some people get sports-cars, some people don't... GT3 is.was for those that do.

MJSpeed

Alright now we're all on the same page!!
This is why many have gone or thinking of going with either PCCB and or lighter aftermarket options and lighter BBS or other Magnesium/lighter wheels...btw run a search on lightweight GT3 or GT3 diet and you'll see what some of us have, are or will do...but like we said, it's all about choices, if someone wants to do something it should be their choice not PAG's or PCNA's!

Flying Finn

All right, I'm outta here...