I think I just got burnt!
#121
Was thinking about your thread last night and reread most of it this morning... Such a shame , it must be so frustrating to think that it all started back in April and here we are in July and you still don't have your car. I'm a relatively new owner, 3 years this past June, and picked up mine under similar circumstances (we drove up to Virginia and back to Tampa) but with much different results. I'm hoping that it all works out well for you. Ralph
Thanks for the kind words man. The furthur removed I get from when this happened, the more I think I got fleeced. Its a lesson learned about the inherent evils of the human race.
The guy told me he listened to the car with a stethoscope haha, I should have ran when he let that one slip coupled with the thicker oil.
These are things that needed mentioned when I asked is there anything odd about the csr when we started the process. Not when he lets the stethoscope comment slip after a 7 hour drive. The only reason you listen to a car with a stethoscope is because you hear something. Im sure after that listening session he decided to up the oil viscosity.
Thankfully this is only a 14k dollar lesson where the end result is going to be a mean Jake Raby build. I've learned a lot from it and will move on.
Then again I could be wrong.....
#122
Given all that you have been through you have the right perspective. My interactions with Rennlisters has been very positive and I migrate to the site for expert advice. Choosing FSI was the best decision. Can't say enough positive things about JR.
#125
Exactly. Buying a higher mileage care I knew the possibilities. I planned on having to rebuild down the road, but I just didn't plan on it happening so soon.
Just like you said Bill, my stress and anxiety over driving a ticking time bomb didn't last long.
#126
It is getting to be that time of the year folks....Tear-down and rebuild time. I just spoke with Judd at FSI and he was nice enough to send me some photos of my tear-down. There were wasn't a catastrophic failure with the engine just some wear items, but it was time for a rebuild.
I'll provide a refresher for people that forgot what happened 6 months ago. I bought a vehicle out of Illinois off a man that worked as an engineer at Caterpillar. He was an enthusiast, but was selling the car because he was transferring to Arizona. He seemed like an 'honest' guy and I built some trust off the fact that he was a fellow engineer.
Well, we talked about his vehicle and he mentioned that he was running 20w50 in the vehicle, because he was moving. I'd say it's safe to say this was a lie and he was running it to mask engine noises. After the car purchase occurred he mentioned that he had listened to the engine with a stethoscope and everything sounded fine. Lets be honest, you only listen to a car with a stethoscope because you hear something. In typical idiot gnarbowski fashion I trust the guy and continue.
I set up a PPI where we change the oil back to a 5w40 and the vehicle was inspected for wear and tear along with a nice flogging after the oil change. Mechanic reports back that the car drives great and he would have zero problems buying the vehicle. I'm feeling good at this point and like the price that we negotiated down to. The wife and I head out to bum **** middle of nowhere Illinois and complete the deal after I drive and listen to the vehicle for an hour.
Fast forward an hour or two....We pull up to the hotel and I hear my worst nightmare unfold. We end up sending the car to Jake for a 3.8L Stage II engine. Seller doesn't openly admit guilt, but decides to pay for flatbed cost to Georgia. IMO opinion him doing that was an admission of guilt. I need to give him a call to catch up to tell him about car he sold me
Here we are 6 months later and my engine cases have been split and looked at. A few cracked coil packs, worn bearings, and worn cylinder walls later. Pictures below.
*******disclaimer******* If you intend to troll this thread please be a big boy and don't post. I'm sure that will be difficult for a few of you.
I'll provide a refresher for people that forgot what happened 6 months ago. I bought a vehicle out of Illinois off a man that worked as an engineer at Caterpillar. He was an enthusiast, but was selling the car because he was transferring to Arizona. He seemed like an 'honest' guy and I built some trust off the fact that he was a fellow engineer.
Well, we talked about his vehicle and he mentioned that he was running 20w50 in the vehicle, because he was moving. I'd say it's safe to say this was a lie and he was running it to mask engine noises. After the car purchase occurred he mentioned that he had listened to the engine with a stethoscope and everything sounded fine. Lets be honest, you only listen to a car with a stethoscope because you hear something. In typical idiot gnarbowski fashion I trust the guy and continue.
I set up a PPI where we change the oil back to a 5w40 and the vehicle was inspected for wear and tear along with a nice flogging after the oil change. Mechanic reports back that the car drives great and he would have zero problems buying the vehicle. I'm feeling good at this point and like the price that we negotiated down to. The wife and I head out to bum **** middle of nowhere Illinois and complete the deal after I drive and listen to the vehicle for an hour.
Fast forward an hour or two....We pull up to the hotel and I hear my worst nightmare unfold. We end up sending the car to Jake for a 3.8L Stage II engine. Seller doesn't openly admit guilt, but decides to pay for flatbed cost to Georgia. IMO opinion him doing that was an admission of guilt. I need to give him a call to catch up to tell him about car he sold me
Here we are 6 months later and my engine cases have been split and looked at. A few cracked coil packs, worn bearings, and worn cylinder walls later. Pictures below.
*******disclaimer******* If you intend to troll this thread please be a big boy and don't post. I'm sure that will be difficult for a few of you.
#127
Good to hear that things are moving forward. So ultimately because the engine was toast, will this reduce the rebuild cost? You lost this summer.....but you are really going to love next summer!
#131
I can't wait to get it back man. Next summer will be fun.
The seller is aware of the thread and hasn't posted in it. Thank you for joining in on the discussion and expressing your thoughts.
The seller is aware of the thread and hasn't posted in it. Thank you for joining in on the discussion and expressing your thoughts.
#132
Subscribed. Any close up photos of the cylinder walls and did they find the cause of the knocking?
I think at 110k miles, most can benefit from a rebuild regardless because the cylinder walls will be ovaled and tapered and most components will need replacing such as the chain/cam pads and valve lifters. Can be all addressed thoroughly.
I think at 110k miles, most can benefit from a rebuild regardless because the cylinder walls will be ovaled and tapered and most components will need replacing such as the chain/cam pads and valve lifters. Can be all addressed thoroughly.
#133
Great to open a thread and see some photos of an opened motor! Not under the best circumstances I understand.. But, I can't wait to here about the new motor. You're gonna have a fun rig when all said and done!
Hope it all goes smooth as possible.
Hope it all goes smooth as possible.
#135
Subscribed. Any close up photos of the cylinder walls and did they find the cause of the knocking?
I think at 110k miles, most can benefit from a rebuild regardless because the cylinder walls will be ovaled and tapered and most components will need replacing such as the chain/cam pads and valve lifters. Can be all addressed thoroughly.
I think at 110k miles, most can benefit from a rebuild regardless because the cylinder walls will be ovaled and tapered and most components will need replacing such as the chain/cam pads and valve lifters. Can be all addressed thoroughly.