Thinking of selling my 996. Hope you don't hate me
11-08-2016, 04:39 PM
#32
11-08-2016, 04:48 PM
#33
You know darn well I'd only get to drive it on the weekends as Ang would want to be the "owner".
11-08-2016, 05:51 PM
#34
Yeah, I don't think I would describe it as strong in its stock form. More like good enough for DD coupled with a few out right poor design choices that can be addessed with better quality aftermarket components. You just don't get a feel of over engineering if you look at the engine parts closely.
11-08-2016, 07:40 PM
#35
Yeah, I don't think I would describe it as strong in its stock form. More like good enough for DD coupled with a few out right poor design choices that can be addessed with better quality aftermarket components. You just don't get a feel of over engineering if you look at the engine parts closely.
11-08-2016, 08:15 PM
#36
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This condition was created by and is perpetuated by Porsche. Building and selling M96 engines (or a more modern version backward compatible with the 996) at a reasonable cost would take the legs right out from under all of the 986/996 engine problems. Despite the Porsche spam they mailed me about the 996 being a classic, not having a crate engine program shows that Porsche has no genuine interest in making a long-term commitment to the 996 community.
11-09-2016, 12:16 AM
#37
Drifting
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
11-09-2016, 09:02 AM
#38
Three Wheelin'
True, but when you replace the Ferrari engine the car is worth more than the engine, a lot more. When you replace a 996 engine...well, you have a new engine anyway.
My 2002 996 with 121,000 miles has needed expensive maintenance due to wear items, which is expected, but otherwise no problems. But I would never, ever, invest $25k for a "done right" engine in this car. I would immediately move up to a 997.2 or 991. I can get a 2013 911 with PDK and 30k miles on it for $58,000 today. And if I could get $15k for my car on trade (I can't) I would do it.
My 2002 996 with 121,000 miles has needed expensive maintenance due to wear items, which is expected, but otherwise no problems. But I would never, ever, invest $25k for a "done right" engine in this car. I would immediately move up to a 997.2 or 991. I can get a 2013 911 with PDK and 30k miles on it for $58,000 today. And if I could get $15k for my car on trade (I can't) I would do it.
11-09-2016, 09:31 AM
#39
I was at the same point as you are .Really liked the platform but did not trust the engine -even after LNE IMS kit ,new cam chains and pads , AOS and a lot of other stuff .I could not get past the parts and machining costs if the engine let go and if it ate a crankshaft then it was just absurd .
My solution was a LSX swap -not perfect but reliable .
My solution was a LSX swap -not perfect but reliable .
11-09-2016, 02:47 PM
#41
They is me -no kit .The only gauge that does not work is the oil level .The Porsche ECU controls all non engine functions .The gm E CU controls engine and emissions using the Porsche purge valve and evap componets .This is a 1999 996 which is pretty basic .Don't know about the newer models.
11-09-2016, 03:23 PM
#42
Race Director
Here are a few of the California Air Resources Board (CARB) guidelines for engine swaps. It becomes obvious fairly quickly that CARB does not want you to swap a V8 into a non-V8 car...
The extent to which CARB tries to sabotage engine swaps just sucks.
- "Engine and emission control systems must be in an engine-chassis configuration certified by the California Air Resources Board (ARB) or U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)."
- "The installed engine and host chassis must retain all of their original emission control equipment."
- Voiding the vehicle manufacturer's emission warranty is not allowed.
- Mixing and matching emission control system components could cause problems and is generally not allowed.
- ...state and federal anti-tampering laws generally prohibit any modification to the vehicle's original emission control system configuration as certified by the manufacturer.
The extent to which CARB tries to sabotage engine swaps just sucks.
11-09-2016, 03:32 PM
#43
ontario has similar rules and it's why I didn't go down that road when my motor went. it was the same cost also and lot more work outside of my domain.
we're also legalizing weed apparently.
we're also legalizing weed apparently.
11-09-2016, 09:23 PM
#45
Rennlist Member
I was at the same point as you are .Really liked the platform but did not trust the engine -even after LNE IMS kit ,new cam chains and pads , AOS and a lot of other stuff .I could not get past the parts and machining costs if the engine let go and if it ate a crankshaft then it was just absurd . My solution was a LSX swap -not perfect but reliable .