Gas Monkey LS Powered 911
10-26-2016, 05:19 PM
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But trying to squeeze a V8 ( …albeit not a Chevy, that is heresy) into a 911 rear end is not a new idea. RUF has built a V8 from scratch for their RGT model. The rumor has it Porsche AG was considering doing the same but has abandoned the idea.
10-26-2016, 05:35 PM
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That V-8 looks a lot better than the GMG one. A V-8 that is purposefully built to be installed into the 996 I can understand. It is a deliberate effort. The GMG effort, although they had adapters and so forth, seemed like an experiment. But, hey, they did it and sold it on, so good on 'em.
10-26-2016, 05:46 PM
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That V-8 looks a lot better than the GMG one. A V-8 that is purposefully built to be installed into the 996 I can understand. It is a deliberate effort. The GMG effort, although they had adapters and so forth, seemed like an experiment. But, hey, they did it and sold it on, so good on 'em.
10-26-2016, 05:55 PM
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"and with no question are better than any motor Porsche ever even thought about"
Knowing what someone else is thinking is exceptional and uncommon insight. hahahaha
Knowing what someone else is thinking is exceptional and uncommon insight. hahahaha
10-26-2016, 06:01 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily say that the LS is the best motor ever designed, but the pushrod design, although much maligned by the DOHC community, allows for some useful geometry. Example: Using the area between cylinder banks for camshafts and pushrods means the engine package doesn't need to be as tall as many overhead cam designs. In applications (like the Corvette) where there needs to be both adequate ground clearance and a low c/g, this works very well.
Raise the limiter on an LS3 engine from 6600 to 8200RPM and run it that way for a bit...then come back and explain how it is superior in every way to a Porsche engine. Your apple is neither better nor worse than my orange; just different.
Raise the limiter on an LS3 engine from 6600 to 8200RPM and run it that way for a bit...then come back and explain how it is superior in every way to a Porsche engine. Your apple is neither better nor worse than my orange; just different.
10-26-2016, 06:54 PM
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10-26-2016, 08:50 PM
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There are Porsche purists that enjoy high-performance, and there are high-performance enthusiasts that happen to drive a Porsche. I love my Porsche, but if one thousand hamsters on a treadmill made the car go better, I'd be breeding them right now in preparation for the treadmill swap.
The RUF mill, although a beautiful piece that appears to work well, is still unobtanium. And, sure, a dohc, 4 valve design is a high rpm monster, but what you're looking at us still a six figure (deep sixes) engine. It may as well not even exist when it comes down to wanting one for yourself.
The GM LS series are proven high-performance engines with a vast aftermarket support system with tried and true high-performance combinations (cam/heads/compression/intake/exhaust/injector size/tune, etc.) that leaves little room for error. The recipes for your target horsepower desire are out there. There aren't many secrets in the LS enthusiast community. Guys are eager to share what works best with others that are curious. The LS mills are also proven in terms of longevity, since being first released in the 97' C5 Corvettes.
And the best part? A relatively low dollar per horsepower ratio. And the low-end torque will keep you in smiles that our 996's are incapable of with the M96. Go ahead and build an approximately 500HP/500tq naturally aspirated M96 engine and share your final cost. It won't be pretty, it won't happen fast and won't be in one piece for very long .
The only down side that I've seen so far (and I'm sure there are more) is the final drive ratio of our gearboxes. We're geared a little low for what would be optimal in sixth gear for the v8 conversion. I also wouldn't attempt hard launches with our box either, but that's just me.
The RUF mill, although a beautiful piece that appears to work well, is still unobtanium. And, sure, a dohc, 4 valve design is a high rpm monster, but what you're looking at us still a six figure (deep sixes) engine. It may as well not even exist when it comes down to wanting one for yourself.
The GM LS series are proven high-performance engines with a vast aftermarket support system with tried and true high-performance combinations (cam/heads/compression/intake/exhaust/injector size/tune, etc.) that leaves little room for error. The recipes for your target horsepower desire are out there. There aren't many secrets in the LS enthusiast community. Guys are eager to share what works best with others that are curious. The LS mills are also proven in terms of longevity, since being first released in the 97' C5 Corvettes.
And the best part? A relatively low dollar per horsepower ratio. And the low-end torque will keep you in smiles that our 996's are incapable of with the M96. Go ahead and build an approximately 500HP/500tq naturally aspirated M96 engine and share your final cost. It won't be pretty, it won't happen fast and won't be in one piece for very long .
The only down side that I've seen so far (and I'm sure there are more) is the final drive ratio of our gearboxes. We're geared a little low for what would be optimal in sixth gear for the v8 conversion. I also wouldn't attempt hard launches with our box either, but that's just me.
10-26-2016, 09:20 PM
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While watching this episode, and shaking my head the whole time, I still cant understand why anyone would want to squeeze a Chevy V-8 into the rear end of a German car. Is it even practical from a future servicing of the engine perspective (i.e. can you even get to the oil filter without dropping the engine?). Additionally, what does the Chevy V-8 do to the weight balance and handling. I was disappointed, but not surprised that the "race" at the end of the episode was only straight line, despite having an entire runway. Aaron and Richard appear to be accomplished drivers but, once more, this is only entertainment TV...
Oil filter was easy because it hangs off the bottom of the motor. Oil fill and dipstick were easy. Plugs were MUCH MUCH MUCH easier than any 911. The oil pressure sensor was a PITA to get to.
10-26-2016, 11:15 PM
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I bought a car from a TV studio from a well known show where they build cars and use sponsor products. I basically had to redo everything because the only thing the studio cared about was getting it running. After it fired up on the show it sat in storage. Nothing was bolted down, installed properly, or safely... plus side though I had to build it all over but got a good deal on the parts because it had the best of everything...
10-26-2016, 11:27 PM
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I bought a car from a TV studio from a well known show where they build cars and use sponsor products. I basically had to redo everything because the only thing the studio cared about was getting it running. After it fired up on the show it sat in storage. Nothing was bolted down, installed properly, or safely... plus side though I had to build it all over but got a good deal on the parts because it had the best of everything...
Its a recipe for a disaster. hell a shop with a clock in it is a disaster alone.
10-26-2016, 11:33 PM
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Can anyone please PM me a "Discovery GO" account so I can watch it??
Pay TV wont have it here for at least 6 months at best...
Will buy you a Bud light next time i'm in the states to be in keeping with the show!
Pay TV wont have it here for at least 6 months at best...
Will buy you a Bud light next time i'm in the states to be in keeping with the show!
10-27-2016, 03:01 AM
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