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Old 09-27-2003, 09:23 PM
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Just for the record and I know this has been discussed over and over, but I had 2 separate 996TT owners tell me that the Z06 is FASTER in straight line acceleration. These guys are no expert drivers, but is this true or not? Of course the Z06 owners will say yes, and many 996TT owners will say no, but what is the real deal.

And I know most of you only care about the track and results there, but please satisfy my curiosity. It's more annoying than anything since the car is $75K less than the TT.
Old 09-28-2003, 01:28 AM
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there are plenty of cheap 1980s camaros around long island that will lay the smack down on a 996TT and a z06 in a straight line, not worth being annoyed about, just enjoy knowing you have the better car at the end of the day
Old 09-28-2003, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Z06 Faster that 996TT?

Originally posted by ADOGNY
And I know most of you only care about the track and results there, but please satisfy my curiosity. It's more annoying than anything since the car is $75K less than the TT.
There you go assuming that the price of a car is an indication of its performance potential. That's one that will bite you in the *** more often than not.
Old 09-28-2003, 02:43 AM
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How about the answer Steve - the 996TT is quite obviously a much more refined and better machine and is probably faster in the track. I know straight line acceleration is not the most important criteria either, I just wanted to know what the real truth is. I have heard the Z06's are very, very fast.. Figured someone here would have the performance data and not just opinions all the time.

There you go assuming that's what I was saying - If I thought the price meant more performance, then why did I buy a GT3 over a 996TT?

Someone PLEASE post the answer to the question.. Thanks!
Old 09-28-2003, 04:43 AM
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z06 performance data (0-60 and 1/4 mile):
http://corvetteactioncenter.com/spec...06perform.html

996TT performance data (0-60 and 1/4 mile):
http://www.flat-6.net/view.php?model...Turbo&tab=spec

google
Old 09-28-2003, 06:15 AM
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I have some nice videos of a 996TT laying the smack down on a Z06. They raced twice from a dead stop and every time the 996 was at least 2 car lengths ahead in the end.
Old 09-28-2003, 09:52 AM
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Was that the video posted on here? If so, I believe that TT was at least a Stage II, not stock vs. stock..
Old 09-28-2003, 09:58 AM
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Thanks for the notes Dan.. Any real world comparison? These 2 guys I met ran their TT's again the Z06 on the Ocean Pky from about 20MPH and a dead stop and the Z06 beat them BOTH! All cars involved were stock... I know ANYONE can drive fast in a straight line on an open road, which is what puzzled me even more. I have seen those #'s, but they do not always tell the real story.
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There is no question. In a straight line, from a dead stop, stock car vs stock car, same or equivalent drivers, the Z06 will beat a 996 TT by a hair. Which car to buy for day to day and occasional track? The 996TT by a mile.
Old 09-28-2003, 11:32 AM
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ADOGNY:

Looks like our GT3's will keep up if not better the Z06 according to the 4.3 sec 0-62 factory spec and driver ability... :-)
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Rockitman -

It certainly looks that way... But those numbers are simply what they are - numbers. We both know that in the real world, that means crap. Test a Z06 or TT or GT3 on different days (climate, etc), and get different results. We need to run them all together at the same time in order to get the real facts.

Thanks to PALTING for answering the question, then adding his opinion. That is a hard task for many on this board. They like to RIP you for asking a question that they may deem unimportant or not in their interest.

So the Z06 beats a 996TT (both stock) in straight line acceleration. My guess is that is probably due to gearing. Notice the Z06 top speed of 170 vs 190 of the TT. I guess with all this being said, my GT3 should be a hair quicker than the Z06.. Still a vette - no thanks.
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This has been discussed a million times before, but I still find the topic interesting. Being that I own a 996TT, I would love to hear that the Turbo wins hands down.

Nonetheless, the reality is that you can buy a new Z06, put $4,000 into the engine & performance, put $5000 into the interior seats/leather and stereo/navigation, put $2000 into the suspension and you will have a $60000 car that will run circles around a stock 996TT, have a nicer interior, and better stereo. Oh yeah, and you'll have enough money left over to buy a spare Z06.

If you really want to get crazy, you can spend $12K to put twin turbos on the Z06 and you will kill pretty much anything on the road (and maybe even yourself!).

True, the Vette name doesn't have quite the cache of Porsche, but for less than 1/2 price you definitely get more than your money's worth.

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Probably been discussed a billion times.. But has anyone ever addressed the gearing as I mentioned before? If you gear the 996's (TT or GT3) to similar ratio's as the Z06, we would have a much different story I am sure.

PS - I ran against a 2003 Z06 with minor mods (He claimed about 425 HP in his car). Let me tell you - that car is FAST as hell. We ran from about 20MPH and I had him the whole way. He let off around 130 when he realized he wasnt going to catch me, I let off at about 145. He caught up to me and asked what kind of HP I was running and what Mods I had. I told him stock, 380 HP non-turbo. The guy was beside himself.. Said I have given him the best race he has ever had and couldnt believe I beat him.

I have to say the main advantage point I had was that my car can REV to heaven... He started to pull strong in 2nd and 3rd, almost looking like he might over take me, but when he had to shift I was able to keep on the power. I only had him by 1/2 a car length, and as we increased velocity, the lead began to increase as well, so he gave up.

Like I said - still a vette but man, the thing is a rocket. Do what Trojan Man said and you got yourself one hell of a fast car. I love Porsche, but how can you beat that for $60K?

ROCKITMAN - You got yourself one hell of a fast car. Enjoy!
Old 09-28-2003, 05:11 PM
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From a standing start, the story may have been different. If a cheap straight line car is what you are impressed with at $60K, you can mod a WRX for considerably less that will perform both on the drag strip and the track.
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Maybe, maybe not. Who says the Z06 is a cheap straight line car? Many people on here have said if it werent for the stock brakes, the Z06's could beat stock 996TT's on the track and as it is, they sometimes DO even with the crappy brakes. You can have your POS WRX and enjoy it.

Since you are an addict I figured you would have know that...

PS - We went from a standing start first and it was even.. But he missed second gear so we went again from 20MPH. I am sure out of 10x there could be 10 different results depending on reflex's and mistakes, etc.


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