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Old 04-23-2015, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fiily
I agree with you Paul, my curiosity is getting the better part of me right now. A 996 c4 ragtop, that would be a nice addition for under 10k if bought right. If the engine is too far gone, then I'll part it and have the wife hate me since she is really ready for a convertible for beach and quick grocery runs.

Temping, but i know from previous 928's, it could be the biggest money pit ever.
A non running 996 can easily be a lot bigger money pit that a 928. I have both so I know. Good used 928 32V engines are only around $1500-$2500.
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Originally Posted by fiily
His mechanic said it was a blown HG, but I call BS, he knows what he has on his hands, a bad 3.4L. We will see, i'll speak with the owner tomorrow.

I wouldn't call total BS yet without knowing more back story, but I bet they had a talk about the cost to fix the engine and after the talk no one really wanted to look into the issue. They just know it doesn't work, will cost a lot to fix, and are happy with that.
Old 04-23-2015, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Byprodriver
With that mileage the cylinders are out of round requiring sleeves & new pistons (bigger). I assume it's losing coolant somewhere, so cracked cylinder or head.
Owner not budging $5700, he laughed when I told em $3k. He doesn't want to spend $10k on replacing the engine, so it sits in his garage until he drops the price or someone forks over $5700.

Too bad.
Old 04-23-2015, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
A non running 996 can easily be a lot bigger money pit that a 928. I have both so I know. Good used 928 32V engines are only around $1500-$2500.
I like my 944T, easy to fix, parts everywhere cheap due to the high production #'s they made.

Like any older porsche, wiring and eletrical gremlins can get the best of people, but like you mentioned, engines are cheap on 928's.

I'll wait and see if owner changes his mind in 2-3months, the car has been sitting for 1.5 years already, what's another 2-3 months of a car rotting away by sitting, literally.
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He would not laugh after he calls a few junkyards. Is his car worth $15,700 if its engine was running well?
Old 04-23-2015, 01:39 PM
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1.5yr not good if there's intermix of coolant and engine oil. Budget about $2k to replace the coolant tank and all the coolant hoses on the car....about 29 of them.
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
He would not laugh after he calls a few junkyards. Is his car worth $15,700 if its engine was running well?
With 185k on the clock, who knows what elese is non-functioning, broken. I am sure if the car had the stock rims, stereo and had about 85K less on it perhaps, but people are leary @ the high high mileage.

Not me
Old 04-23-2015, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
1.5yr not good if there's intermix of coolant and engine oil. Budget about $2k to replace the coolant tank and all the coolant hoses on the car....about 29 of them.
Good to know, thanks for the info. I haven't verified the milk frappe oil/coolant mix, but if he's not willing to negotiate, I won't waste his/my time.
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
He would not laugh after he calls a few junkyards. Is his car worth $15,700 if its engine was running well?
11k dealer trade-in in "good" condition with that mileage, minus the replacement engine cost $3k car.

Obviously the car isn't in "good" condition, it needs lotsa $$$ thrown at it to get it running, then fix any other gotcha's....IMS bearing probably not retrofitted either, that's what $1.5/$2K, wyit do the leaky RMS and clutch, price just climbs.

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Originally Posted by Ahsai
1.5yr not good if there's intermix of coolant and engine oil. Budget about $2k to replace the coolant tank and all the coolant hoses on the car....about 29 of them.
Bingo.
Even 3 months of intermixed coolant will kill these items, and we see it all the time. Guys are leaving the cars broken while they save money for the repairs, then they have to spend 4-5K more to replace all the items that were killed by intermix. It'll even kill the heater core.

When intermix occurs, flush the system immediately. If we get a car here for a reconstruction, we flush the system before we put the car in storage as it waits in our line. If not, the hoses WILL be dead when we pull it out of storage.

Oh, these engines don't blow head gaskets. the gaskets are stronger than the block or the heads. Its an 01, so it has a cracked head- I'll betcha.
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Bingo.
Even 3 months of intermixed coolant will kill these items, and we see it all the time. Guys are leaving the cars broken while they save money for the repairs, then they have to spend 4-5K more to replace all the items that were killed by intermix. It'll even kill the heater core.

When intermix occurs, flush the system immediately. If we get a car here for a reconstruction, we flush the system before we put the car in storage as it waits in our line. If not, the hoses WILL be dead when we pull it out of storage.

Oh, these engines don't blow head gaskets. the gaskets are stronger than the block or the heads. Its an 01, so it has a cracked head- I'll betcha.
Thanks Jake,

I think you nailed it with a cracked head. I believe the owner knows the cost of fixing and the severity of the damage, put it away since he doesn't want to/have the means to fix it, and now is trying to sell a convertible 911 right around the corner from summertime when people fancy the idea of a convertible.

Smart guy, I'll give him that for trying to sell it now with summer in the air.

Thanks again.

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Excellent candidate for a LS3 500hp engine swap, for a driving experience you'll never forget !


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Old 04-23-2015, 11:56 PM
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Reminds me of Renegade Hybrid engine swap for boxster S and 944's. Clean install.

I am assuming the same price tag as a 3.4l used engine, but cheaper to maintain and more powahhhhh!

Owner just increased the price to $6700!!!!!!!! This guy is a quack job.
Old 04-24-2015, 12:36 AM
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I share your fondness for the later 944's. So why not a 968 ?Rare but rather familiar to you.So much sounder than a 911 with unknown engine problem$ ?
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Originally Posted by fiily
Reminds me of Renegade Hybrid engine swap for boxster S and 944's. Clean install.

I am assuming the same price tag as a 3.4l used engine, but cheaper to maintain and more powahhhhh!

Owner just increased the price to $6700!!!!!!!! This guy is a quack job.
He's in denial. Who would buy a 180k mile roller for $6.7k Check autotrader. A 2001 c4 cab is $19k and that car has only 110k miles. Who knows what else is wrong with the car. The transmission could be bad. Who knows. The buyer takes a significant risk buying a roller.


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