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Old 11-28-2013 | 05:25 AM
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Hello, I really need some advise from a non partial mechanic regarding my new clutch kit.

I got lots of work done in the clutch area of my car, new clutch kit with fallout baring, IMS and RMS. Before the work the clutch pedal was hard, very hard, and there was even a noise from the gearbox when depressing the clutch. When I got the car back, I got really happy the clutch was light as a feather to depress (compared to before). But getting threw the gears was different, needed a bit of muscle on the gear stick, and it popped out of gear a couple of times. Within driving 5 minutes I heard a crunching noise coming from the rear. And I thought what was that, that is not a nice noise. The clutch pedal got harder to depress and now seems to be back to being really hard again. No noise as before, does not slip out of gear any more, and is easy to get through the gears, but clutch really stiff..

Anybody got an idea of that this might be?
Old 11-28-2013 | 06:28 AM
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I would say take it right back to the place that did the work for you. Get the mechanic who did your work to drive the car again and see what explanation he can give you.
Old 11-28-2013 | 09:48 AM
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I would say take it right back to the place that did the work for you. Get the mechanic who did your work to drive the car again and see what explanation he can give you.
This. You obviously spent a lot of money, they need to make it right.
Old 11-28-2013 | 11:12 AM
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Did you also get a new pressure plate?

Crunching gears sounds to be indicative of a failing clutch slave cylinder or air in the clutch line. If you drove it this way for awhile, I wouldn't be surprised if you glazed or wore down your new clutch disc already.

As others said, take it back.
Old 11-28-2013 | 02:23 PM
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Sounds like the clutch hydraulics weren't bled properly or the system is leaking.

I replaced my slave cylinder when I replaced my clutch and it took a lot of fiddling to get it right.
Old 11-29-2013 | 11:29 AM
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I got this kit http://www.frazerpart.com/acatalog/9...lutch_Kit.html, si it has a new pressure plate also.

I will go to the shop and ask them. I actually bought a new slave sylinder and asked them to replace it, but they did not, stating it was working correctly.
Old 11-29-2013 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Arne Klinge
I got this kit http://www.frazerpart.com/acatalog/9...lutch_Kit.html, si it has a new pressure plate also.

I will go to the shop and ask them. I actually bought a new slave sylinder and asked them to replace it, but they did not, stating it was working correctly.
What year is your car? That kit is for a 997
Old 11-29-2013 | 05:56 PM
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Did you give it Viagra or Cialis?
Old 11-29-2013 | 07:07 PM
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Yes wrong link sorry for that. fsachs clutch kit for mk2 996, is what i bought. The car is a 2002 996 Carrera 3.6.
Old 11-29-2013 | 07:16 PM
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Could be related to the clutch helper spring.
Read this thread and the other one mentioned in post #4 of that thread.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ce-please.html
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Originally Posted by fpb111
Could be related to the clutch helper spring.
Read this thread and the other one mentioned in post #4 of that thread.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ce-please.html
That was my first thought...but he said he was grinding gears....more correctly he said he was having a "hard" time shifting.

The thread title says clutch pedal hard but nowhere does he describe the clutch pedal actually becoming hard.
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Now I have noticed a creaking sound from the clutch when warm.

see video to listen


The sound only appears when the car is warm, the irritating thing is that it always appears. Also the clutch feels crunchy then used when sound is present. When cold the clutch is light and nimble, only to get though and crunchy with creaking sound til it gets warm. The video was taken after I had an active drive with high speed, cornering and lots of acceleration.

please any suggestions, it's making me crazy
Old 04-21-2014 | 06:44 PM
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Well, it sounds like ignoring the problem hasn't fixed it. Maybe now try to take the advice proferred when you first posted your problem.

1) Take it back to the shop.

2) Have them bleed your clutch hydraulic system and/or replace your slave cylinder if necessary.

Not that difficult to solve this problem, no need to cry.
Old 04-21-2014 | 07:03 PM
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Thank you for the reply, and I also forgot to mention. I have got it back, they could not provoke the sound, probably did not try hard enough. But they did replace the slave cylinder. I suspect they did not change and bleed the hydraulics, I got suspicious of this when I saw the hydraulic level was too high prior to and after the work was done.

I will show them this video and demand an explanation. This has gone too far, have talked to them several times.
Old 04-22-2014 | 12:05 AM
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Well, hang on...we can't read minds. You missed out telling us a critical piece of information.

You say they replaced the slave cylinder? They absolutely would have bled the system if that is the case. Whether or not they did it well enough depends on whether the original problem been solved.

If the problem is solved and the car shifts normally, then bleeding the system is not likely to fix the squeek.

The squeek is coming from the slave cylinder as near as I can tell from the vid. It may simply need some lube on the end of the pushrod.

Another possibility is that the throwout bearing or the pivot arm weren't lubed. That's a bigger problem which will require removal of the transmission again. I can't remember now which is more critical - one needs lube, the other one doesn't, but normally it's done to avoid squeeking.



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