Carrera Rear Badge Removal Fail. Damaged Paint!
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Carrera Rear Badge Removal Fail. Damaged Paint!
So I decided to remove the rear black plastic "Carrera" badge from my 996. I'm thinking of putting on a chrome "911" badge, but thought I'd try the debadge look for a while.
I warmed the adhesive with a heat gun, then used a bit of floss to slide under the badge to remove it. There was a significant amount of adhesive residue, which I removed with some isopropyl alcohol. Still, there was a significant ghost image of the Carrera logo in the paint, so much that I could feel it.
Tried a clay bar, but that didn't help. I got out my random orbit polisher and some Menzerna SIP polishing compound, and gave that a shot. After a bit of polishing, the ghost image was much improved, but not gone. So I polished a bit more. Still barely visible. Polished more.
Bad idea. I think I polished thru the clearcoat in one spot, right were the "C" is. (pics below) You have to be in the right light, but it's visible. AND, I can still see the full Carrera logo if I look hard enough.
Any suggestions to repair the clearcoat spot other than a respray? I tried some wax, but that had no effect.
The remaining image of "Carrera" looks to be a color difference in the paint, probably due to sunlight exposure. Beware of the debadge on older cars.
The "a" at the end of Carrera is just visible
The "C" is visible, along with the clearcoat damage, in the reflection of the white lid.
I warmed the adhesive with a heat gun, then used a bit of floss to slide under the badge to remove it. There was a significant amount of adhesive residue, which I removed with some isopropyl alcohol. Still, there was a significant ghost image of the Carrera logo in the paint, so much that I could feel it.
Tried a clay bar, but that didn't help. I got out my random orbit polisher and some Menzerna SIP polishing compound, and gave that a shot. After a bit of polishing, the ghost image was much improved, but not gone. So I polished a bit more. Still barely visible. Polished more.
Bad idea. I think I polished thru the clearcoat in one spot, right were the "C" is. (pics below) You have to be in the right light, but it's visible. AND, I can still see the full Carrera logo if I look hard enough.
Any suggestions to repair the clearcoat spot other than a respray? I tried some wax, but that had no effect.
The remaining image of "Carrera" looks to be a color difference in the paint, probably due to sunlight exposure. Beware of the debadge on older cars.
The "a" at the end of Carrera is just visible
The "C" is visible, along with the clearcoat damage, in the reflection of the white lid.
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That sucks. You're probably noticing it more than others. I replaced the letters on a Volvo once and got the middle "O" just a bit tilted. It bugged me every time I looked at it, but everybody else thought I was nuts bcz they didn't see it even after I pointed it out. Maybe will fade out with exposure to sunlight? Last ditch alternative to respray would be going back to original badging. But, if you're like most on here, you'll end up respraying the lid. Of course, that won't match exactly either . . . So, might as well respray the whole thing.
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Beware of the debadge on older cars....
#6
looks like a couple spots I have on my turbo. my detailer said that another clearcoat is all that is needed. no paint. take it to a reputable paint shop near you, get their .02
#7
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Do me a favor and try this first. Use the white pad on a lower speed and do some gentle, no pressure passes over that area again. I have seen SIP leave behind a haze that simulates burn through but was actually product. You may get lucky. I had a freak out moment on a new Jag recently that I was sure I burned through. Ended up being SIP haze.
Worst case is a clear coat respray. If you go this route, do the whole lid. It takes a super skilled painter to blend clear coat correctly.
Worst case is a clear coat respray. If you go this route, do the whole lid. It takes a super skilled painter to blend clear coat correctly.
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SIP sounds pretty aggresive for this purpose.
Have you tried a finishing compound like Meg Scratch X or 3M Finesse It?
I have seen what your describing, and it was just a matter of "working down" the level of abrasiveness that is used in the SIP.
After this, try some glaze to fill in any minor imperfections..my guess is that the finishing steps will take care of the remaining ghosting
Have you tried a finishing compound like Meg Scratch X or 3M Finesse It?
I have seen what your describing, and it was just a matter of "working down" the level of abrasiveness that is used in the SIP.
After this, try some glaze to fill in any minor imperfections..my guess is that the finishing steps will take care of the remaining ghosting
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Do me a favor and try this first. Use the white pad on a lower speed and do some gentle, no pressure passes over that area again. I have seen SIP leave behind a haze that simulates burn through but was actually product. You may get lucky. I had a freak out moment on a new Jag recently that I was sure I burned through. Ended up being SIP haze.
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Do me a favor and try this first. Use the white pad on a lower speed and do some gentle, no pressure passes over that area again. I have seen SIP leave behind a haze that simulates burn through but was actually product. You may get lucky. I had a freak out moment on a new Jag recently that I was sure I burned through. Ended up being SIP haze...
A respray isn't in the cards right now. Low-budget mods were the reason I even went down this road. (This was supposed to be free! ) I'm going to have to live with it for a while. Maybe a clearcoat respray later.
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No more polishing...the clear is gone, and you're now in the base coat. Any further polishing, even waxing, you'll be down to primer.
Because it's on such a prominent area, you'll need a repaint, and possible blend into the bumper. Take it to a good porsche repair facility to get a true diagnosis.
FYI---Simply using dental floss and rubbing back and forth will take off emblem. Using a product like goo gone, and spraying on the adhesive left behind, and allowing it to sit for a few minutes, will safely remove everything back there. If you have the "ghosting" it can be minimized by polishing. In this case, SIP was just fine, but OP polished too much. If there's a little ghosting left, that's UV color difference. That area hasn't seen sunlight in decades.
Hope this helps others. Sorry to OP...but it can be fixed
Because it's on such a prominent area, you'll need a repaint, and possible blend into the bumper. Take it to a good porsche repair facility to get a true diagnosis.
FYI---Simply using dental floss and rubbing back and forth will take off emblem. Using a product like goo gone, and spraying on the adhesive left behind, and allowing it to sit for a few minutes, will safely remove everything back there. If you have the "ghosting" it can be minimized by polishing. In this case, SIP was just fine, but OP polished too much. If there's a little ghosting left, that's UV color difference. That area hasn't seen sunlight in decades.
Hope this helps others. Sorry to OP...but it can be fixed
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I used dental floss and Goo Gone as well. I also had to use a plastic scraper because some of the adhesive foam backing from the emblem remained. It took a little work but it came out fine.
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It's like salt.... you can always add but you can't remove. I think that Carrera lettering was put on to stay. That's why I didn't take mine off. Plus why remove the most important lettering of the 911 car. That's like removing the word TURBO to me. Anyway. Bollock already dropped. I hope you sort thing's out successfully.
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My carrera 4 logo was put on off center - really annoyed me. I tried to remove with floss and cleaner, but ended up removing some of the paint. I put the logo back on for a while and then had the deck repainted. Looks great now.
#15
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Logos can be a real pain to remove. I just replaced a letter and side of the rear Porsche script on my 944Turbo. I used two sets as the first did not go on to my liking. Good luck with your clear coat.