Engine is damaged - not an IMS failure!
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I guess it is up to an individual choice, and I am at least glad there is an aftermarket choice to begin with for the things that Porsche AG won't talk about or give stats on. If they were more forthcoming with that information I might have acted differently - so by doing that Porsche scared me, rather than the IMS vendors using "scare tactics" - they just gave me the choice to either ignore it like some have done, or get the "insurance policy".
I thank the vendors out there that gave me a choice - I personally wasn't scared into it, just a decent investment in a car that can be quirky (and ALL models have their "thing" if you read the buyer's guide for all the generations as many of you know - the air cooled models have their own plights and things to fix).
Regards,
Steve
I thank the vendors out there that gave me a choice - I personally wasn't scared into it, just a decent investment in a car that can be quirky (and ALL models have their "thing" if you read the buyer's guide for all the generations as many of you know - the air cooled models have their own plights and things to fix).
Regards,
Steve
Actually 99.9% success rate is only 0.5 failures on 500, or 1 in a 1000.
Sorry, just the engineer thing in me...
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-Eric
#138
I see bearing wear and R&Rs all the time in large industrial equipment regularly.
Since there is no pressurized oil flow to the bearing, retrofit or not, the inclusion of metal debris from parts unknown in the engine passages to the IMS bearing are slim to none.
we have had five engine failures total where the single row ceramic bearing was found to have failed (although not conclusively as the cause of the engine failure, given there are dozens of known modes of failure and secondly, these are open bearings susceptible to damage from foreign object debris).
I have to have faith that Jake, who has an extremely good, and long reputation,
#139
I love Big Bang,too...always cracks me up when they ping Howard for "only" having a Masters..
And I agree with everything you said (except that I was as quite incorrect). I know the LNE bearing is open, so of course it is susceptible to foreign matter. But, I read that as "if there was inadequate cleaning prep before the bearing was put in, then **** happens". I agree, bad or hackneyed installation is a more likely call. I also wasn't aware that they've had 5 pre-mature failures to date.
As a I minored in Shakepeare, (much prefer the comedies, though) and that is one of the few lines I know from Hamlet, since it refers to an engineer, it is actually "hoist with his own petard", but the meaning is the same. Still, nice to see all gearheads aren't totally devoid of cultcha..
Jake is selling his product, I agree. Of course, his view is biased, because he naturally sees the worst of the worst, after it's too late. His perspective is certainly going to be unique, so his somewhat "sky is falling" perspective has to be tempered with intelligent thought. I don't see it as "Tick Tick Boom", but for those that do, well fine, then don't buy his product. I certainly didn't for that reason, and I knew all about the IMS bearing debacle before I bought my car 4 years ago. I've said it many times in other posts, the ONLY reason we see so much angst and debate over the IMS bearing is beacause there are too many unknowns and it is EXPENSIVE when it happens. If it was $1000 repair, instead of $15k, no one would bother with any of this. But when it happens, as it has, I can feel the pain. I can't wait to read what the OP finds. I'm betting it is NOT IMS anything, in this case. Nothing fits, well, IMHO. Just a case of "easy diagnosis" for the layman, it appears to me.
And I thought anklyosing spondylitis was mostly genetic, not size related...learn something new all the time.
And I agree with everything you said (except that I was as quite incorrect). I know the LNE bearing is open, so of course it is susceptible to foreign matter. But, I read that as "if there was inadequate cleaning prep before the bearing was put in, then **** happens". I agree, bad or hackneyed installation is a more likely call. I also wasn't aware that they've had 5 pre-mature failures to date.
As a I minored in Shakepeare, (much prefer the comedies, though) and that is one of the few lines I know from Hamlet, since it refers to an engineer, it is actually "hoist with his own petard", but the meaning is the same. Still, nice to see all gearheads aren't totally devoid of cultcha..
Jake is selling his product, I agree. Of course, his view is biased, because he naturally sees the worst of the worst, after it's too late. His perspective is certainly going to be unique, so his somewhat "sky is falling" perspective has to be tempered with intelligent thought. I don't see it as "Tick Tick Boom", but for those that do, well fine, then don't buy his product. I certainly didn't for that reason, and I knew all about the IMS bearing debacle before I bought my car 4 years ago. I've said it many times in other posts, the ONLY reason we see so much angst and debate over the IMS bearing is beacause there are too many unknowns and it is EXPENSIVE when it happens. If it was $1000 repair, instead of $15k, no one would bother with any of this. But when it happens, as it has, I can feel the pain. I can't wait to read what the OP finds. I'm betting it is NOT IMS anything, in this case. Nothing fits, well, IMHO. Just a case of "easy diagnosis" for the layman, it appears to me.
And I thought anklyosing spondylitis was mostly genetic, not size related...learn something new all the time.
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#141
i've been away from the forum for a bit, but it's nice to see the ims situation still eliciting hundreds of responses and posts on a reply.
i'm still not running a guardian or replacement at 56,000 miles, but recently changed oil and i'll be sending it in for analysis. still love it and drive it like i stole it.
sorry to hear about the OPs car.
i'm still not running a guardian or replacement at 56,000 miles, but recently changed oil and i'll be sending it in for analysis. still love it and drive it like i stole it.
sorry to hear about the OPs car.
#142
Adding Blossom as Amy Fowler knocked the laugh out loud factor up a a notch. The perfect character and compliment to tie the females to the males in another way. Even my wife, who isn't into geek humor, loves to watch it. Seriously, my favorite show.
#143
Not when the threads keep getting shut down... which is kind of annoying because it's just about the only subject that keeps me reading here. Yeeeeeeuuuup, yup, yup... guess I will go back in my lurk hole again for another two or three years until it gets exciting to read posts here again. (LOL)
#144
Jake is selling his product, I agree. Of course, his view is biased, because he naturally sees the worst of the worst, after it's too late. His perspective is certainly going to be unique, so his somewhat "sky is falling" perspective has to be tempered with intelligent thought. I don't see it as "Tick Tick Boom", but for those that do, well fine, then don't buy his product.
And I thought anklyosing spondylitis was mostly genetic, not size related...learn something new all the time.
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As a I minored in Shakepeare, (much prefer the comedies, though) and that is one of the few lines I know from Hamlet, since it refers to an engineer, it is actually "hoist with his own petard", but the meaning is the same. Still, nice to see all gearheads aren't totally devoid of cultcha..
As a I minored in Shakepeare, (much prefer the comedies, though) and that is one of the few lines I know from Hamlet, since it refers to an engineer, it is actually "hoist with his own petard", but the meaning is the same. Still, nice to see all gearheads aren't totally devoid of cultcha..
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But see, I see this particular thread as positive, with a comraderie type of ongoing arguement, not how some degenerate in to useless insult matches. We can't shut this one down until we hear what the results of the OPs teardown is. It's exciting, more so for us than the OP, I'm afraid. Still doesn't compare to the dotframe's wife thread, though....
#149
Thanks for all the entertainment while I tear my engine out guys!
Question - I have everything disconnected except the fuel lines - the manual I have is for a MK1 (mine's a MK2) and the diagram makes no sense for my car.
Parts guy said upper left of the engine compartment ... Maybe I'm just tired - can't find them. Guidance? Pics? Anybody?