SkydiveS4

Really?

I am a Porschephile, own one, and have owned two others, but with the statement you make above, your credibility goes out the window.

-Michael

SkydiveS4

Wow.

Why are you attacking people?

Nobody attacked you or your automobile.

buddy911t

Any real world car, Christ! I thought I'd be preaching to the converted. You must all think BMW's are cool and Porsches are just ok , if so what the f are you doing stirring up trouble in a Porsche site? I'm just confused as to your problems. Why are you here dear?

Wellardmac

You have a join date of July 2011. You ARE a newbie and obviously not educated on the relative merits of the M3 to the 996 - that makes you ignorant also - simple statements of fact.

Wellardmac

yeah, I know. A little sensitive when his view of the world was adjusted.

Wellardmac

We're sports car enthusiasts. We know the strengths and weaknesses of our cars. We love them, but we haven't drunk the coolaid and don't believe that they walk on water and are the best cars in the world. They are phenomenal cars, but an educated realist knows their limitations. We know where they excel and we know where other similar cars excel.

Newbie, if you're if here to troll, then you've picked the wrong forum and you'll meet some resistance and an receive some education.

DreamCarrera

That's a good point, however I'd bet Porsche would rather post Nring times and the like, unfortunately this info would go over the heads of most people. On the other hand, just about every performance car buyer is familiar with 0-60 times.

redridge

did you forget your meds?

Wellardmac

Well, that's the problem - track times are track, weather and driver dependent. Straight line 0-60 is easy.

I did think the same thing. I think Ben Choi might be back with a different name.

buddy911t

Me attack? I'm the most non -violent person you have ever been in communication with, and again I speak purely from experience , I love you

buddy911t

My dear welladmac. I believe you misunderstand my motives. I don't have an agenda like you do therefore we are on different levels of conscioucsness and understanding. I'm not saying anything to be mean. Really but it's so cute how you get all ruffeled like a dogs back(no disrepect, if you only knew how much I love dogs.) I don't have a clear understanding of trolling, Is that someone misrepresenting herself?

Wellardmac

Gotta love your passive-agressive bit. I pity people who can't afford their meds.

SkydiveS4

What the?!

I didn't say a word about BMWs in the context of your post. (I do enjoy them and have owned several, but that's beside the point. They're different cars, with different strengths that suit a different use case entirely, but that's beside the point.) What I find laughable is your generalization that the only car that can beat a Porsche is another Porsche.

The fact is that in capable hands a Honda can "beat" a Porsche in less capable hands, and there are a great number of "real world" cars that are faster and more capable than a 911.

I am a car nut. I presently own a 996 C4S. I love it. I have owned many cars and enjoyed them too. I do not believe that it or any 911 is "the best car in the world" but I do believe that 911s are among the best cars presently available to the middle class enthusiast.

The rest of your personally deleterious comments and poorly crafted sarcasms are out of place here, and do more to diminish your comments than they do the folks you aim them at.

-Michael

buddy911t

no

DreamCarrera

Agreed, although 0-60 times are also varied depending on surface and weather conditions(among other things), albeit to a much lesser extent.

I think the Nring has become the holy lands of performance car testing, hell even Caddy tests their high performance models there to record times.

I'd love to see the various manufacturers posts thier Nring times as often as they post their 0-60 times even if they are less than scientific. Of course this does not even take into account the blatant cheating that goes on with Nring testing by the manufacturers, can you say Nissan GT-R or ringer Ferraris? But again, I think posting these times would not be of much interest to the general car buying public, unfortunately.