3.6 rebuild
01-27-2012, 10:20 PM
#76
Three Wheelin'
+1, this is a MUCH better deal than the Porsche option considering the extra displacement and Nikasil cylinders. You are basically getting a Jake Raby trained veteran engine builder Flat6 innovations motor (minus the F6I stamp)... personally, if I didn't like wrenching so much, and had the timing worked out, I probably would have bought this one myself. I'm surprised it hasn't sold yet. Anyone who has to pay the Porsche tax on a new engine or is looking for an upgrade should snap this one up without hesitation.
01-27-2012, 11:09 PM
#77
I understand, so how much exactly Porsche is charging for their stuff ?
Last time I heard it was $16k for the engine, and they would give you back something like $5k if your old engine was rebuildable, no ?
I have to admit a custom rebuild with those attribute at the same price sounds like a deal... for the poor owner who have to foot the bill.
Last time I heard it was $16k for the engine, and they would give you back something like $5k if your old engine was rebuildable, no ?
I have to admit a custom rebuild with those attribute at the same price sounds like a deal... for the poor owner who have to foot the bill.
01-27-2012, 11:31 PM
#78
Three Wheelin'
A replacement 3.4L engine from Porsche will currently set you back $15.7k discounted (18.4k retail, 17.4k core).
I've heard/read of many "gratis" offerings from the Dr. where they meet or credit some portion of that cost, depending on the situation. Others/most are not so lucky.
Still though, for someone looking for an upgrade (think of this puppy in a 986) or just an unlucky 1999-2001 996 owner who needs an engine, I can think of no better option (even if Porsche provides a credit, the materials in the rebuilt engine he is offering are far more desirable than stock).
I've heard/read of many "gratis" offerings from the Dr. where they meet or credit some portion of that cost, depending on the situation. Others/most are not so lucky.
Still though, for someone looking for an upgrade (think of this puppy in a 986) or just an unlucky 1999-2001 996 owner who needs an engine, I can think of no better option (even if Porsche provides a credit, the materials in the rebuilt engine he is offering are far more desirable than stock).
01-28-2012, 11:42 AM
#80
Three Wheelin'
In the UK, autofarm advertises they can go to 3.7 from a 3.4 case.
I'm not sure if LNE could do the same on a one off basis or if they only go to 3.6 from a 3.4 case.
I'm not sure if LNE could do the same on a one off basis or if they only go to 3.6 from a 3.4 case.
02-08-2012, 12:29 AM
#81
Former Vendor
At 3.6 liters the engine maintains solid integrity. Through my development we learned that bigger is not better and 3.6 liters is all the OE 3.4 head casting can support without a loss of RPM range.
BTW- Its not a "Flat 6 Innovations Engine" unless it has our serial number~
BTW- Its not a "Flat 6 Innovations Engine" unless it has our serial number~
03-28-2012, 05:35 PM
#82
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03-30-2012, 01:36 PM
#83
Three Wheelin'
Do you have the AFR from that run as well? Was this with stock intake and exhaust, no other mods (or assuming you've done the complimentary mods to the 986 that go with the 996 conversion)?
I see the run was dynojet STD, which I believe means a 2.6% gain over dynojet SAE.
If so, the numbers are almost identical with my 3.6L upgrade, I measured 264 rwhp on dynojet SAE, with the 2.6% bump on dynoject STD would make mine 271 rwhp, and might also make sense since I have the fabspeed headers and 3.6L mufflers (if they are in fact contributing ~5 more rwhp).
My torque numbers were slightly lower SAE, and with a 2.6% bump to equal the STD numbers you have that computes to max torque of about 231 peak, or 10 less. But the curve looked similar and wonderfully flat !!!!!!
So much punch in just about any gear once you are above 3k RPM.
You can't go wrong with this engine !!!!
I see the run was dynojet STD, which I believe means a 2.6% gain over dynojet SAE.
If so, the numbers are almost identical with my 3.6L upgrade, I measured 264 rwhp on dynojet SAE, with the 2.6% bump on dynoject STD would make mine 271 rwhp, and might also make sense since I have the fabspeed headers and 3.6L mufflers (if they are in fact contributing ~5 more rwhp).
My torque numbers were slightly lower SAE, and with a 2.6% bump to equal the STD numbers you have that computes to max torque of about 231 peak, or 10 less. But the curve looked similar and wonderfully flat !!!!!!
So much punch in just about any gear once you are above 3k RPM.You can't go wrong with this engine !!!!
Last edited by logray; 03-30-2012 at 02:05 PM.
03-30-2012, 09:57 PM
#84
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Do you have the AFR from that run as well? Was this with stock intake and exhaust, no other mods (or assuming you've done the complimentary mods to the 986 that go with the 996 conversion)?
I see the run was dynojet STD, which I believe means a 2.6% gain over dynojet SAE.
If so, the numbers are almost identical with my 3.6L upgrade, I measured 264 rwhp on dynojet SAE, with the 2.6% bump on dynoject STD would make mine 271 rwhp, and might also make sense since I have the fabspeed headers and 3.6L mufflers (if they are in fact contributing ~5 more rwhp).
My torque numbers were slightly lower SAE, and with a 2.6% bump to equal the STD numbers you have that computes to max torque of about 231 peak, or 10 less. But the curve looked similar and wonderfully flat !!!!!! So much punch in just about any gear once you are above 3k RPM.
You can't go wrong with this engine !!!!
I see the run was dynojet STD, which I believe means a 2.6% gain over dynojet SAE.
If so, the numbers are almost identical with my 3.6L upgrade, I measured 264 rwhp on dynojet SAE, with the 2.6% bump on dynoject STD would make mine 271 rwhp, and might also make sense since I have the fabspeed headers and 3.6L mufflers (if they are in fact contributing ~5 more rwhp).
My torque numbers were slightly lower SAE, and with a 2.6% bump to equal the STD numbers you have that computes to max torque of about 231 peak, or 10 less. But the curve looked similar and wonderfully flat !!!!!!
So much punch in just about any gear once you are above 3k RPM.You can't go wrong with this engine !!!!
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08-07-2018, 02:15 PM
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08-08-2018, 05:41 PM
#89
I understood that Jake Raby offer a 3.2 to 3.8 kit since about a year !
(From (OE) 93mm diameter going to 101mm), keeping the same stroke (78mm).
If you change crank to increase stroke from (OE) 78mm into 83.2, ..than you are at 4 liters !
(From (OE) 93mm diameter going to 101mm), keeping the same stroke (78mm).
If you change crank to increase stroke from (OE) 78mm into 83.2, ..than you are at 4 liters !
Last edited by GVA-SFO; 08-14-2018 at 04:25 AM.
08-08-2018, 07:57 PM
#90
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^^^ I could be wrong but I believe it is 3.4 to 3.8 and 3.6 to 4.0 when they do the track performer stage 2 engines.