brake pads
#16
Read statements below.
I asked what his experience level was, and my reply to his original question(s) was:
I clearly recommended not to upgrade pads and NOT to get R-comps or Pagid Blacks or Oranges, etc. I really believe you understood and knew what I meant by "agressive pads." As a fellow track junky, I'm fairly certain that we are all on the same page with respect to "performance parts" and "aggressive pads." In fact, your suggestion of "mild pads" confirms this. You are saying the same thing (don't upgrade to "performance" parts) just in a different way. I'm not sure why you decided to call me out on this one. Maybe it's just Monday. No worries.
Again, I don't think he needs to upgrade anything for his 2nd DE.
Maybe, just maybe, you actually read too much into MY posts...
-td
Which type of brake pads do you recommend me for my 996, that will be good in performance for DE, but will not be very noisy for driving on the street.
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The reason is that on this weekend DE track driving, while in the inspection prior to racing, I was told that I will need to replace my brake pads and resurface the discs if I want to run on the next DE.
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The reason is that on this weekend DE track driving, while in the inspection prior to racing, I was told that I will need to replace my brake pads and resurface the discs if I want to run on the next DE.
Originally Posted by me
There is no reason to upgrade to track parts at this stage.
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I can't see any real reason for you to upgrade pads
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I can't see any real reason for you to upgrade pads
Again, I don't think he needs to upgrade anything for his 2nd DE.
Maybe, just maybe, you actually read too much into MY posts...
-td
#17
problem with Porsche's sports pads is that they are noisy on the street... I have them and they are great for track but when cold... squeal like a pig!... though they seem to have lessen.
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LOL, nice backpedal
I love the creative highlight of this
"Which type of brake pads do you recommend me for my 996, that will be good in performance for DE, but will not be very noisy for driving on the street."
But not this
"Which type of brake pads do you recommend me for my 996, [B]that will be good in performance for DE, but will not be very noisy for driving on the street."
If you can tell me which "aggressive pads" you are refering to that will not be noisy I'd love to hear about them. Hell I'd probably buy some.
From what I read the OP is not looking for a heavy track pad, just a "good" pad to improvement performance over stock that won't squeal.
As I said I see no issue running such a pad on street tires and nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise.
I will agree to disagree.
I love the creative highlight of this
"Which type of brake pads do you recommend me for my 996, that will be good in performance for DE, but will not be very noisy for driving on the street."
But not this
"Which type of brake pads do you recommend me for my 996, [B]that will be good in performance for DE, but will not be very noisy for driving on the street."
If you can tell me which "aggressive pads" you are refering to that will not be noisy I'd love to hear about them. Hell I'd probably buy some.
From what I read the OP is not looking for a heavy track pad, just a "good" pad to improvement performance over stock that won't squeal.
As I said I see no issue running such a pad on street tires and nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise.
I will agree to disagree.
#19
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Completely agree. There are VERY few people who need to be thinking about performance upgrades to their car after one DE. Upgrade the driver first. Worry about the car later.
#20
Originally Posted by Ray
If you can tell me which "aggressive pads" you are refering to that will not be noisy I'd love to hear about them. Hell I'd probably buy some.
I see no issue running such a pad on street tires and nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise.
I will agree to disagree.
I will agree to disagree.
I don't need bickering just so you can have an excuse to "agree to disagree." I think you add value to the forum, I just don't have the time or energy to deal with nonsense and twisting my statements just to troll for responses. So, no offense, I'm blocking you.
Anyway, the cool part is, now you're joining my Benjamin Choi list. Yikes!
Best to you.
-td
Last edited by himself; 04-07-2009 at 02:37 PM.
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In the proverbial nutshell:
Yellows: Squeal quite a bit for street use. #1 for track use.
Black: High friction, squealy on street, great bit, more rotor wear than Yellow or Orange
Orange: Usually markedly less noise thant the above two. Lighter dust, less cost, great pad for beg/int track usage.
Call me: 425-765-1090 and I can elaborate on usages for any purpose.
Yellows: Squeal quite a bit for street use. #1 for track use.
Black: High friction, squealy on street, great bit, more rotor wear than Yellow or Orange
Orange: Usually markedly less noise thant the above two. Lighter dust, less cost, great pad for beg/int track usage.
Call me: 425-765-1090 and I can elaborate on usages for any purpose.
#25
Burning Brakes
I've had good luck with Carbotech's XP8 pads on other cars (getting them for the 911 soon). I use it for the street as well. It makes a little noise when it's colder outside, but not much if any when it's summertime. Anything more agressive in the Carbotech line will make a lot of noise on the street.
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To continue on the friendly portion of this thread
I am currently running Hawks HP's with Sumi's. I do 3-4 DE's a year and leave the pads on year round. My car is a daily driver. I don't have brake squeal but the wheels get dusty now and than depending on how you are driving.
I had Pagids on my '86 Carrera. Blacks in front and orange in back or vice versa (don't remember). Those worked extremeley well but ate my rotors. Granted 13 years of technology separated the cars though.
Either way whatever you do......new pads are better than old ones.
I am currently running Hawks HP's with Sumi's. I do 3-4 DE's a year and leave the pads on year round. My car is a daily driver. I don't have brake squeal but the wheels get dusty now and than depending on how you are driving.
I had Pagids on my '86 Carrera. Blacks in front and orange in back or vice versa (don't remember). Those worked extremeley well but ate my rotors. Granted 13 years of technology separated the cars though.
Either way whatever you do......new pads are better than old ones.
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i did oem sport pads/stoptech braided lines/ate fluid/gt3 ducts and am very happy. the pads were quiet, then sqeaked some for a period, then the squeek went away completely.
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To continue on the friendly portion of this thread
I am currently running Hawks HP's with Sumi's. I do 3-4 DE's a year and leave the pads on year round. My car is a daily driver. I don't have brake squeal but the wheels get dusty now and than depending on how you are driving.
I had Pagids on my '86 Carrera. Blacks in front and orange in back or vice versa (don't remember). Those worked extremeley well but ate my rotors. Granted 13 years of technology separated the cars though.
Either way whatever you do......new pads are better than old ones.
I am currently running Hawks HP's with Sumi's. I do 3-4 DE's a year and leave the pads on year round. My car is a daily driver. I don't have brake squeal but the wheels get dusty now and than depending on how you are driving.
I had Pagids on my '86 Carrera. Blacks in front and orange in back or vice versa (don't remember). Those worked extremeley well but ate my rotors. Granted 13 years of technology separated the cars though.
Either way whatever you do......new pads are better than old ones.
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Hi,
I just ordered the Porsche Sport pads from Suncoast. Was thinking about just swapping out for DE (I run in white, will probably be in black soon), but how are they on street and how rough on rotors if I just leave 'em on?
Also, any particular bedding-in for these?
Thanks for the help!
I just ordered the Porsche Sport pads from Suncoast. Was thinking about just swapping out for DE (I run in white, will probably be in black soon), but how are they on street and how rough on rotors if I just leave 'em on?
Also, any particular bedding-in for these?
Thanks for the help!