Do you have a remanufactured engine?
05-05-2008, 04:05 PM
#212
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But as the old chinese saying goes, it takes two hands to clap (or something like that). Feeding the troll and arguing an irrelevant point will probably confuse the potential future buyer during their research - which I care about. Heck I had been following this thread and even I got confused about the original intent.
05-05-2008, 05:40 PM
#213
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05-07-2008, 03:53 AM
#214
I ran that same search, but concluded that it was written 7 years ago while new M96 engines were still in production.
What I want to know is if should a motor blow up today in 2008 can one purchase a new engine from Porsche and get a production date and watch it roll off the line, or is the M96 out of series production as most of us assume, and only remans left?
- Jury, if you could prove unequivocally that people can order a brand new M96 motor today (should be easy, call your Porsche rep or dealer and get some documentation etc), then I think you've actually won your argument, and this thread will have contributed something valuable to the forum.
What I want to know is if should a motor blow up today in 2008 can one purchase a new engine from Porsche and get a production date and watch it roll off the line, or is the M96 out of series production as most of us assume, and only remans left?
- Jury, if you could prove unequivocally that people can order a brand new M96 motor today (should be easy, call your Porsche rep or dealer and get some documentation etc), then I think you've actually won your argument, and this thread will have contributed something valuable to the forum.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...=428211&page=2
The quote in question: "Also, they said the last motor they replaced was BRAND new because Porsche didn't have an reman. ones in stock."
That is EXACTLY what I hypothesized Porsche would have to do. Don't need to go through the so-called "loop" to figure that one out.
05-07-2008, 04:09 AM
#215
Three Wheelin'
saw that thread and thought of you and the epic battle on this thread. This was the white elephant I was hunting. I was hoping someone would get inspired to call their PCNA regional rep, and it's a shame that we found this out through our Rennlist brother's current misfortune, but that's a silver lining if I ever saw one. Let's hope he gets a new one too.
Let's also hope that the recent increase in quoted replacement engine prices reflects a move to more new engines, and that the unavailability of reman inventory speaks to a quality driven decrease in the availability of late model cores! That would be great news! Ahh more conjecture.
I'm a man of my word. In my opinion, you've got the win here jury, on what I feel is the crux of your argument. If for whatever reason my motor went, I would absolutely prefer breaking in a new replacement motor. Unless they offered to transplant a warrantable M97/01S (x51)! That might take the sting out.
Let's also hope that the recent increase in quoted replacement engine prices reflects a move to more new engines, and that the unavailability of reman inventory speaks to a quality driven decrease in the availability of late model cores! That would be great news! Ahh more conjecture.
I'm a man of my word. In my opinion, you've got the win here jury, on what I feel is the crux of your argument. If for whatever reason my motor went, I would absolutely prefer breaking in a new replacement motor. Unless they offered to transplant a warrantable M97/01S (x51)! That might take the sting out.
05-07-2008, 04:45 AM
#216
Put in an order at the dealer? WHAAHAHAHAHHAHA wait months? Yea. Who? Who's done this and through what special request is this made? More bs.
And you seriously need to drop this new engine is better than reman deal. You know those nice 40th Anniversary cars I was telling you about that experienced IMS kaboom - all 3 of them that I know of? Those engines were built new/original later than my '02/'03 reman engine. Putting any sort of value to this statement I just made is as valid of an act as your updated/edited claim that new/original engines built around the same time period > reman engines built around the same time period.
Whooo wheeeeee oohhhhhhhh
Whooo wheeeeee oohhhhhhhh
05-07-2008, 04:51 AM
#217
I figured you'd weasel out of this rather than accept a good old fashioned defeat.
Answer the following questions:
1)Was your premise, 'all remanufactured engines are new engines that failed first pass QC' accurate/inaccurate?
2)Was your statement 'Porsche does not need to build/remanufacture any more M96 engines because they already have a warehouse full of them in Ontario, Ca' accurate/inaccurate?
Answer the following questions:
1)Was your premise, 'all remanufactured engines are new engines that failed first pass QC' accurate/inaccurate?
2)Was your statement 'Porsche does not need to build/remanufacture any more M96 engines because they already have a warehouse full of them in Ontario, Ca' accurate/inaccurate?
Last edited by jury_ca; 05-07-2008 at 07:14 AM.
05-07-2008, 07:18 AM
#218
Jury is not my boy 
What jury had started was a theoretical question that would probably never apply in real life. I think the question that he started was not necessarily a bad one to begin with, but I do not agree with his subsequent arguments. Since we have little to no information from Porsche, we have to work off assumptions - and I trust assumptiosn from people who had been through the loop or race teams who work closely with Porsche more than someone who had never been through the loop and implied that they have links to Porsche.
What jury had started was a theoretical question that would probably never apply in real life. I think the question that he started was not necessarily a bad one to begin with, but I do not agree with his subsequent arguments. Since we have little to no information from Porsche, we have to work off assumptions - and I trust assumptiosn from people who had been through the loop or race teams who work closely with Porsche more than someone who had never been through the loop and implied that they have links to Porsche. 
At this point all the evidence is lining up on my side - availability of new engines, use of used parts on reman engines, etc.
So Ben, who's your daddy? :P
