Wax on wax off
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Portland, Oregon
Bump. I have had the new Meguiar's NXT paste wax on the test car (co. car) for a couple weeks now. It is really shiny. I got inspired by Fast40th and attempted to enhance it by refreshing it and adding a layer of carnauba over it after seeing what he did was a layer of synthetic followed by a wax. I did one side of the hood with the carnauba, and I couldn't tell any difference, which is a good sign for the NXT, but that led me to thinking about surface preparation. I started looking more closely at the clear coat on both cars. The cars are both new in Q3 of last year. The P-car's last treatment was hand rub with Meguiar's number 7 and a coat of Porsche Hartwax.
The Detroit clear coat (or maybe the paint underneath) is thick and quite lumpy. The Stuttgart paint is also a little lumpy. I was wondering how this lumpiness affects the shine and what, if anything, anyone does about it.
Lumpy Detroit Paint:
Less Lumpy Stuttgart Paint:
The Detroit clear coat (or maybe the paint underneath) is thick and quite lumpy. The Stuttgart paint is also a little lumpy. I was wondering how this lumpiness affects the shine and what, if anything, anyone does about it.
Lumpy Detroit Paint:
Less Lumpy Stuttgart Paint:
Racer
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Long Island
The "lumpiness" is called orangepeal. It occurs when paint jobs are not wetsanded and can be worse depending on the type of paint and how well the paint job was done. Supposedly alot of the new low VOC paint jobs coming out of the factories have higher amounts of orange peal. Porsche paint jobs seem to be pretty good with minor orange peal but checkout a bently or lamborghini or a good custom paint job for what no orange peal looks like. A good custom painter will wet sand the primer and the color coat before putting on a clear and then wetsand the clear. Actually Lexus seems to be pretty good too.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: LA LA land
Lee: Absolutely try the barge first!... go easy with the compounds and power tools. And from a previous post you had a question on the Porsche windshield washer solution. I suggest you try P21S winshield washer booster, same product as the one offered by Porsche but at a fraction of the cost.
Instructor
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: CA
I am a big fan of Griots Garage. I probably have every over priced thing in their catalog. But I have to agree about prepping the car. Before any wax, sealer or protectant hits the car finish the paint must be cleaned and polished. Clay has probably been the best invention for car care in a long time. Also, front windshields can be polished with the right products. My best tip was from my father who said " only wash your car in a straight motion turning the cloth and rinsing often and not in circles." This will help keep you from introducing any scratches into the surface. I don't care what sheep your wash mitt came from or what boar’s *** the brush came from. My advice is always take your time.
Racer
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Long Island
Do not use compound to try to reduce orange peal. If you compound that hard you will burn right through your clear coat. If your paints in good shape. I would clay the horizontal surfaces, then use the porter cable and the white polishing pad with a good polish p21s, menzerma, etc. Then top with your preferred wax or sealant. The car will look great.
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Racer
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Long Island
RJMDAD not sure what products you are talking about. P21S makes the wax you stated but their polish is called "gloss enhancing paintwork cleanser" which is a great polish to use before waxing. Meguiars #34 final inspection is a quick detailer, which IMHO really adds nothing to a P21S wax finish although it is a great quick detailer after a wash or a pre-show wipe down. If those are the products you were mentioning the order of use would be P21S paintwork cleanser, followed by the P21S wax, usuing the #34 quick detailer when necessary.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2002
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There is only one product to use on your top.
Raggtopp. No masking required, superior waterproofing. Been using it for years.
http://www.wolfsteins.com/main.htm
Raggtopp. No masking required, superior waterproofing. Been using it for years.
http://www.wolfsteins.com/main.htm