clum553946

I have another question for you guys out there. Does anyone have any experience with the Superchips computer upgrade for a 996? (mine's a 2001)
Thanks!

VORLAND

Forget Superchips! Had 3 different versions of an ECU reprogramme from them and the 3rd one blew my engine , turbo and manifold on my Audi TT. They didnt pay a penny ! W@nkers!!!!!!

Laura

If you want to 'chip' your car, look into Revo Technic software. Flash programming thru the data port. No opening up your ECU.
revotechnik.com

TT Surgeon

Yes, but it still voids the warranty, right?

1999Porsche911

Talk to Todd at EVOM.com. I think he is developing a flash that cannot be seen by the dealer.

bobporsche996

iv'e never heard a positive thing about superchips.. they make a chip for every single car out there.. from escorts to cavaliers and back.. that should tell you something... go with a company that knows what they are doing when it comes to cars such as these... with the delicate and expensive engines, transmissions, and gearboxes, etc.. they have as it is, i would think it would be best to go with a chip by a company that specializes in porsches.. (if a chip is even worth it... they really don't do too much to a stock untuned car) it's worth the extra money... superchips is crap, regardless if they help out your car or not, you'll pay for it later.... when it blows up on you...

Lorenfb

Late model cars have enough problems with emissions and OBDII. Why would anyone
want to place an "unknown" in their car without having the ability to change "back"
to stock when problems occur?

Furthermore, Porsche has "maxed-out" those engines obviating simple timing and fuel
changes without major engine mods, e.g. intake/exhaust, head work, & engine size.
Check out this web site (www.andial.com) on the FAQ page on Question #2 as this
is applicable to ALL Porsche engines (964/993/996) which utilize knock sensors.

TT Surgeon

I'm still reluctant to chip mine while still under warranty. Frankly I can't believe a tuner, even as good as Evo can outsmart a billion dollar automaker's computers. JMO

vove

-Best post yet bob.

Check into RUF to see if they make a chip for the 996, that should be a solid chip if they do.

jetskied

Actually from talking with some tuners there is little to be gained from chips. They said it will get you about 12HP and that there is no real gains on the 3.6L cars. Evo chips are by GIAC, so you can get the same tune from other shops who carry GIAC. They are reputable and many have reported that they got some more midrange power from them. GIAC I would say is reptuable since they don't make a 3.6L because there is not much to be gain, so they are not selling you bogus stuff that does not help. Other choices are Unichip which is a programable piggyback unit that is tuned on a dyno for your car so you are assured to be getting the HP they say. Some here has it and they claim it works. The nice thing about Unichip is that since its piggyback, you can remove it and its back to stock easily.

Lorenfb

Info -

The late 993s ('96-'98), 996s, and all later cars no longer have removeable EPROM chips.
The DME units use a flash memory (like PC flash memory cards) which are programmed
via the OBDII connector or via the comm. lines of the DME unit.

harris

unfortunetelly they do not......
i did sent them an e-mail about this but in reply i just got back a 6 page adobbe acrobat catalog with evey possible mod for 996 C2 but nowere there was a chip....

i used a chip on my 964 from RUF and i must say it was fab.....

996 vengine is so finetuned (if we can use such a word...) so, trying to chip such a car wouldn't give u much....

Laura

There has been no warranty issues with flash programming with REVO. The software upgrade is transparent to the dealer techs and when switched back to stock mode, all the performance returns to stock levels. All the safety parameters put in place by the factory remain in the ECU to protect your engine. REVO engineers have fine tuned areas for extra performance and drivability, but do not take the risk of having your motor on the 'ragged edge'. You, the owner, have the ability to turn it on or off at your discretion. If, for some reason, a dealer tech flashes a new stock program, the REVO performance software can be reflashed at no cost to you.

C4S,
I wouldn't say the tuners are 'outsmarting' Porsche engineers, they have the tools and knowledge to access information that is in the computer and by remapping fuel and timing maps, are running the engine closer to the performance envelope. Obviously the ‘tuned’ car must have the best fuel available (i.e. 91 octane in California). Where the ‘stock’ engine will run on just about any fuel worldwide including 80 octane. This has not gone unnoticed by the REVO engineers who have also included maps for 95 and 100 octane fuels, that are user selectable. Porsche builds a car to satisfy a large market and with it many compromises and has done a great job of it.. REVO is simply changing the parameters of the compromise.

A very simple example is that Porsche delivers a car with type A tires of a specific size, tread ware and OK performance to satisfy DOT requirements. But a large portion of Porsche drivers change wheels and tires to Type B larger, wider, lower profile and less tread wear, for advanced performance. This does not mean it is wrong, just that it suits that particular drivers wants/needs.

clum553946

Laura:
Have you had the REVO flashed into your car & if so, can you feel the difference?

Laura

Much of the testing over the last year has been done here and I have had the opportunity with the customer to drive the car before and after. Yes, you can tell the difference, the most of course with the turbo. The customers have been very happy with the result. The cool thing is that you drive in and in 15 minutes it is done and you can feel the improvement right away. Not a day or two or in some cases weeks while you wait for your ECU to be returned.