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Old 05-11-2024, 06:13 PM
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EDITED - B/c I do not need worthless comments as was happening - just 1 question left

QUESTION - If you were selling a car with some damage to front bumper PPF, how would you handle it?

I see 3 options, however you all likely see far more and/or better., and these three are not all great If I were to NOT repair it, I'd say it's fair to say I will lose more value than if I replace it myself, again just IMHO.
  1. Choose a new PPF and have the front bumper and side mirrors all installed AND install new front lip
  2. In Sale Listing, provide final sale price "allowance", maybe $2k (i have learned this might be more $$), to the buyer.
    1. In this scenario, I likely will have to adjust my reserve limit DOWN by $2k, so if I were going to accept say $30k for the car, with this option, I would now accept as low as $28k
    2. I will specifically allow for the final buyer to choose whether I install the new front lip or whether they keep it as part of the PPF project
  3. Provide the potential buyers with the option that they prefer. Essentially, allow that the final buyer choose one option above, although that agreement would have to be worked out ahead of final sale due to different PPF prices, not to mention everyone will have to sign off on it
    1. I really don't like this option as a seller, but I would like this option as the buyer
In the end, as much as I think that I'd like to offer potential buyers the option to choose for themselves, it doesn't seem like it is the wisest thing to do from a resale perspective. In any event, maybe someone has an idea that is better. Thanks everyone

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I had a Cayenne that had PPF left on too long and it was a complete nightmare to remove it and it also pulled off clear coat in several places.
Because of this, I will never, EVER buy another car that has any PPF no matter how new it might be. It's a 100% deal breaker for me me so my vote is to remove the existing PPF and leave it at that.
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I would say, you tell the prospective buyer the price options. Leave it = $0 Have it professionally removed/resprayed/polished,,,=$? Whatever you and buyer decide on. $40k in maintenance seems very high to me. It’s a Turbo, I understand. What was the reason? Catch up on what was never repaired/replaced/maintained properly?
lots to discuss with the buyer.
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My 2-cents is that any money you spend on it will not be made back on the sale price. So take off the old damaged film, and let the buyer decide what they do from there.
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It's my understanding that that old PPF was designed to come off after 5 years. I can't say what's gonna happen for sure, but I bet when you go to take this off after 14 years it won't come off in big elastic panels like we see in videos. It might cost a few hundred just to have it professionally removed.
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Originally Posted by SoCal911t
I had a Cayenne that had PPF left on too long and it was a complete nightmare to remove it and it also pulled off clear coat in several places.
Because of this, I will never, EVER buy another car that has any PPF no matter how new it might be. It's a 100% deal breaker for me me so my vote is to remove the existing PPF and leave it at that.
Thanks, but your comments are not helpful so I guess thanks for acting like a 14 year old
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Originally Posted by Patunia
I would say, you tell the prospective buyer the price options. Leave it = $0 Have it professionally removed/resprayed/polished,,,=$? Whatever you and buyer decide on. $40k in maintenance seems very high to me. It’s a Turbo, I understand. What was the reason? Catch up on what was never repaired/replaced/maintained properly?
lots to discuss with the buyer.
Have you ever had a full engine and transmission out review? I mean, **** that alone is about $10k and it is a 22 year old car which gets driven less than 1000 miles per year. I have never sold a car with issues beyond smaller normal wear and tear items.
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Originally Posted by cqhall
It's my understanding that that old PPF was designed to come off after 5 years. I can't say what's gonna happen for sure, but I bet when you go to take this off after 14 years it won't come off in big elastic panels like we see in videos. It might cost a few hundred just to have it professionally removed.
VERY HELPFUL and something I never thought about. This is exactly why I asked this question. This is something constructive I never thought about and now I need to look deeper into. Thank you!!
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Old 05-12-2024, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by saint80
Thanks, but your comments are not helpful so I guess thanks for acting like a 14 year old
Dude gave you great info...you should listen.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by saint80
EDITED - B/c I do not need worthless comments as was happening - just 1 question left

QUESTION - If you were selling a car with some damage to front bumper PPF, how would you handle it?

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Francis, with that kind of damage you should probably donate it for a tax write off.
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Originally Posted by saint80
Have you ever had a full engine and transmission out review? I mean, **** that alone is about $10k and it is a 22 year old car which gets driven less than 1000 miles per year. I have never sold a car with issues beyond smaller normal wear and tear items.
No I’ve never had a full engine and transmission out review, whatever that is. Like I said, I understand that it’s a Turbo model, more expensive to maintain. I’m just asking a question. $40k maintenance over the 22 years of the lifetime of the vehicle is way more understandable. You didn’t say that, just the cost of maintenance you mentioned. Are you the original owner? If not, that explains why $40k was spent on repairs/replacement/maintenance by you.
Anyway, good luck with selling your car.
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Since you edited due to worthless comments, here’s another one for you. If I was looking to buy a “22 year old car” that was “driven less than 1000 miles a year, so mileage would be less than 22,000 miles. I would be looking for an owner/seller that would be able to provide me with some real maintenance records. You say around $10k for an engine/transmission out “review” as a buyer I would ask well what about the other around $30k in documentation?
In reality I wouldn’t even ask you anything about the car because you come off like a total ******* who doesn’t want to do his own research, instead ask a question, which by the way, has been asked on here and every other car site in the history of PPF a million (I’m exaggerating, like you with the $ spent on repairs) then when someone, maybe a robot or a troll, says something you don’t appreciate, you snip and stomp, edit your post.
Just out of curiosity, is the car a 2002 tippy cab with a F’d up top and spoiler system? Some kind of hacked up sound system/ Bluetooth/apple play head unit?
Asking for a friend.
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1. Rennlist has moderators? Who Knew?
2. It took them over 19 years to find one of my posts offensive? It's not like I wasn't trying.
3. If this rebuttal gets me banned, I just wanted to say I enjoyed the run. Cheers Everyone!





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I’d like to let you know that I found your comment amusing.
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Originally Posted by cqhall
It's my understanding that that old PPF was designed to come off after 5 years. I can't say what's gonna happen for sure, but I bet when you go to take this off after 14 years it won't come off in big elastic panels like we see in videos. It might cost a few hundred just to have it professionally removed.
Id say it’ll cost as much as a full paint correction so closer to the $1k+ range.

Originally Posted by saint80
Thanks, but your comments are not helpful so I guess thanks for acting like a 14 year old
He’s probably one of the nicer guys on here, don’t be softer than baby **** and see his comment as advice and not a personal attack.

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