996 Power Mods - Recs Please
03-13-2023, 08:18 PM
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03-15-2023, 08:39 AM
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03-15-2023, 10:21 AM
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Seems that the ratio for performance may be the same whether it's bolt on or rebuild. The question is how much you want to pay and in what order.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
Last edited by GC996; 03-15-2023 at 11:41 AM.
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03-15-2023, 04:24 PM
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Seems that the ratio for performance may be the same whether it's bolt on or rebuild. The question is how much you want to pay and in what order.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
Are blowers on this platform a terrible idea?
03-15-2023, 04:29 PM
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03-15-2023, 04:47 PM
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Seems that the ratio for performance may be the same whether it's bolt on or rebuild. The question is how much you want to pay and in what order.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
03-15-2023, 05:04 PM
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03-15-2023, 05:14 PM
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Cool - should be easy for you to provide examples since data is readily available.
If you’re going to speak on the topic don’t you think appropriate to be prepared to back up statements you make.
Ya know, so people know they can trust your opinion is based on more than what you believe or want to believe.
If you’re going to speak on the topic don’t you think appropriate to be prepared to back up statements you make.
Ya know, so people know they can trust your opinion is based on more than what you believe or want to believe.
03-15-2023, 05:18 PM
#55
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Cool - should be easy for you to provide examples since data is readily available.
If you’re going to speak on the topic don’t you think appropriate to be prepared to back up statements you make.
Ya know, so people know they can trust your opinion is based on more than what you believe or want to believe.
If you’re going to speak on the topic don’t you think appropriate to be prepared to back up statements you make.
Ya know, so people know they can trust your opinion is based on more than what you believe or want to believe.
03-15-2023, 05:52 PM
#56
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https://www.fabspeed.com/fabspeed-po...age-2000-2004/
$264.16/HP
If I use your example of a $40K rebuild cost and split your HP gain range down the middle to 60WHP (is this even accurate?) I get:
$666.68/HP
Seems like a pretty big difference to me… maybe I’m missing something.
Seems that the ratio for performance may be the same whether it's bolt on or rebuild. The question is how much you want to pay and in what order.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
$10k+ for complete exhaust and software gets you between ~10 to 20 hp.
$40k for a 4.0 or greater top of the line rebuild gets you between ~40 to 80 hp. This includes the cost of heads/ports and nikkies.
In aggregate, ~$50k gets you between ~50 to 100 hp. You can cut the costs in half if you do the work yourself.
Speed costs time, money, snd headaches. How fast you want to go will tell you how much time, money and headaches you have to accept. DIY guys may spend less money, but their cost is time and headaches.
Speed just like life is a trade-off.
03-15-2023, 06:00 PM
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@Fabspeed Motorsport
https://www.fabspeed.com/fabspeed-po...age-2000-2004/
$264.16/HP
If I use your example of a $40K rebuild cost and split your HP gain range down the middle to 60WHP (is this even accurate?) I get:
$666.68/HP
Seems like a pretty big difference to me… maybe I’m missing something.
https://www.fabspeed.com/fabspeed-po...age-2000-2004/
$264.16/HP
If I use your example of a $40K rebuild cost and split your HP gain range down the middle to 60WHP (is this even accurate?) I get:
$666.68/HP
Seems like a pretty big difference to me… maybe I’m missing something.
03-15-2023, 06:29 PM
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As others have said, you won't get much of anything (if anything) out of the 996 engine by throwing money at it. The exception might be a serious bump in displacement, but that is a significant investment in coin.
Just drive your car, run a few autocrosses, and learn how to drive your machine.
03-15-2023, 07:12 PM
#59
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Yep. Everybody wants HP until they learn how to drive. Then you realize you don't need it as much as learning to carry speed.
PCA has free instructors for both autocross and DE. Best freebie out there.
PCA has free instructors for both autocross and DE. Best freebie out there.
03-15-2023, 07:12 PM
#60
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HP gain/ dollar is not a linear function. Best investment may be a good set of tires.
As others have said, you won't get much of anything (if anything) out of the 996 engine by throwing money at it. The exception might be a serious bump in displacement, but that is a significant investment in coin.
Just drive your car, run a few autocrosses, and learn how to drive your machine.
As others have said, you won't get much of anything (if anything) out of the 996 engine by throwing money at it. The exception might be a serious bump in displacement, but that is a significant investment in coin.
Just drive your car, run a few autocrosses, and learn how to drive your machine.
Poster - interested in bolt ons, any experiences ?
You - get tires and learn how to drive your car.
Define - won’t get much of anything, if anything for me please.