996 Built Engines
#46
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I got mine rebuilt earlier this year at a place called 9xx Motors in Southern California. It's been 6 months and 4K miles and so far so good. I know that's not close to you but if you have to ship the engine anyway it may not matter much. He's a factory trained Porsche tech and specializes in Porsche rebuilds.
Another user did this spreadsheet ~2 years ago. You might find it helpful:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9Ks/edit#gid=0
Another user did this spreadsheet ~2 years ago. You might find it helpful:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...9Ks/edit#gid=0
#47
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Yep. Good to see. Would love to see the 996 GT3 numbers. Still not sold on the Honda 4 banger. Doubt it's useable on the track. Question is what LS makes the most sense for the 996 and what set-up. Lot of guys seem to have done a swap. Doesn't look like many track it. But I bet they are out there.
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Yep. Good to see. Would love to see the 996 GT3 numbers. Still not sold on the Honda 4 banger. Doubt it's useable on the track. Question is what LS makes the most sense for the 996 and what set-up. Lot of guys seem to have done a swap. Doesn't look like many track it. But I bet they are out there.
To the OP, may want to keep the below on your radar.
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#49
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The real issue with the ls v8 engine is the high center of gravity..not the power ...
The main reason Porsche has stayed with the flat six in the 911 is the low center of gravity...you can't get that with an in-line or V engine, just isn't possible...
Take any in-line or V engine of the same weight as a flat six and mount them on a stand at center line of the crankshaft and weigh the 4 legs, then turn the engine vertical and re-measure,the weight, you will see the difference in center of gravity.. In-lines and V's are "top heavy" compared to flat six..
And that is in the "Porsche Spirit".... good handling characteristics and well balanced are the primary importance above brute power....
The main reason Porsche has stayed with the flat six in the 911 is the low center of gravity...you can't get that with an in-line or V engine, just isn't possible...
Take any in-line or V engine of the same weight as a flat six and mount them on a stand at center line of the crankshaft and weigh the 4 legs, then turn the engine vertical and re-measure,the weight, you will see the difference in center of gravity.. In-lines and V's are "top heavy" compared to flat six..
And that is in the "Porsche Spirit".... good handling characteristics and well balanced are the primary importance above brute power....
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EVOMMM (09-19-2022)
#50
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The real issue with the ls v8 engine is the high center of gravity..not the power ...
The main reason Porsche has stayed with the flat six in the 911 is the low center of gravity...you can't get that with an in-line or V engine, just isn't possible...
Take any in-line or V engine of the same weight as a flat six and mount them on a stand at center line of the crankshaft and weigh the 4 legs, then turn the engine vertical and re-measure,the weight, you will see the difference in center of gravity.. In-lines and V's are "top heavy" compared to flat six..
And that is in the "Porsche Spirit".... good handling characteristics and well balanced are the primary importance above brute power....
The main reason Porsche has stayed with the flat six in the 911 is the low center of gravity...you can't get that with an in-line or V engine, just isn't possible...
Take any in-line or V engine of the same weight as a flat six and mount them on a stand at center line of the crankshaft and weigh the 4 legs, then turn the engine vertical and re-measure,the weight, you will see the difference in center of gravity.. In-lines and V's are "top heavy" compared to flat six..
And that is in the "Porsche Spirit".... good handling characteristics and well balanced are the primary importance above brute power....
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The real issue with the ls v8 engine is the high center of gravity..not the power ...
The main reason Porsche has stayed with the flat six in the 911 is the low center of gravity...you can't get that with an in-line or V engine, just isn't possible...
Take any in-line or V engine of the same weight as a flat six and mount them on a stand at center line of the crankshaft and weigh the 4 legs, then turn the engine vertical and re-measure,the weight, you will see the difference in center of gravity.. In-lines and V's are "top heavy" compared to flat six..
And that is in the "Porsche Spirit".... good handling characteristics and well balanced are the primary importance above brute power....
The main reason Porsche has stayed with the flat six in the 911 is the low center of gravity...you can't get that with an in-line or V engine, just isn't possible...
Take any in-line or V engine of the same weight as a flat six and mount them on a stand at center line of the crankshaft and weigh the 4 legs, then turn the engine vertical and re-measure,the weight, you will see the difference in center of gravity.. In-lines and V's are "top heavy" compared to flat six..
And that is in the "Porsche Spirit".... good handling characteristics and well balanced are the primary importance above brute power....
#53
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The only swap I would ever want in a 996 is a boosted 13B or NA 26b.
#54
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I am not sold on swapping an LS or Honda 4 banger into a 996 for many reasons. Would prefer a rebuilt m96. However, I would consider a 996 gt3 mezger swap, but at the end of the day, the cost would be crazy silly and i wouldnt get the performance i wanted from it without a rebuild and more cost.
I'll dance with the girl I came to the party with.
I'll dance with the girl I came to the party with.
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blacksquid (09-21-2022)
#55
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When I think of swaps I go back to a write up in autoweek and the pic changes my mind
Actually a very capable car but why???
Actually a very capable car but why???
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Porschetech3 (09-19-2022)
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Porschetech3 (09-20-2022)
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But to make real power you need to throw turbos etc. at it, some of which is inevitably going to raise the CG. Although I guess one could keep it pretty much in the Porsche turbo realm, so, yeah. And the aftermarket support for that platform is right up there with the Honda world.
#59
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Is the CG really that much higher with an LS? Can it be offset with a lightweight battery or anything else?
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Mike Murphy (09-20-2022)