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Old 07-15-2022, 02:13 PM
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How about FVD Brombacher.
Makers of second-rate IMS replacements...
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Old 07-15-2022, 02:19 PM
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Good thing I have been using the LN IMSB!
Old 07-15-2022, 02:32 PM
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[QUOTE=rs10;18250575]
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Do you know Jarno's user name on this forum? Or do you have any other info that might help me find him? (I searched the forum for "Jarno in Keil" (and Kiel) but nothing came up.)

Thanks!
Jarno’s company:

www.werksmotor.de


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I agree with the Jarno/Werksmotor recommendation in Germany . He seems to be the only one on that side of the pond who has figured out how to fit "wet" ductile iron sleeves" in m96 engines reliably..The fitting clearances/tolerances is critical.

I have seen many of his posts on the engine builders Facebook forum and his are always spot on...



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Old 07-15-2022, 06:55 PM
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Completely hazardous unsubstantiated guess here but I'd suppose a Manthey rebuild is in the same ballpark as an exclusive builder in the US - say FSI maybe? FSI engines are not cheap, if you have somehow not noticed.

Edit - and if you've got the coin and live in Germany? Why not just bring it back? https://www.porsche.com/internationa...ion/stuttgart/

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Old 07-15-2022, 07:01 PM
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[QUOTE=b3freak;18250711]
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Jarno’s company:

www.werksmotor.de
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove
Completely hazardous unsubstantiated guess here but I'd suppose a Manthey rebuild is in the same ballpark as an exclusive builder in the US - say FSI maybe? FSI engines are not cheap, if you have somehow not noticed.

Edit - and if you've got the coin and live in Germany? Why not just bring it back? https://www.porsche.com/internationa...ion/stuttgart/
Even if I had the coin, "The specialists at the Porsche Classic Workshop in Stuttgart maintain all Porsche Classic models, from the 356 all the way up to the Porsche 911 (Type 993)."
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Interesting - in the US they've added the 996. I thought that would be true overseas as well. Sorry!
Old 07-15-2022, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr_Strangelove
Interesting - in the US they've added the 996. I thought that would be true overseas as well. Sorry!
They say for 996s "please contact your Porsche Classic Partner or authorized Porsche dealership [which is the same thing, no?]"
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Thanks for these tips as well!
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Originally Posted by Porschetech3
I agree with the Jarno/Werksmotor recommendation in Germany . He seems to be the only one on that side of the pond who has figured out how to fit "wet" ductile iron sleeves" in m96 engines reliably..The fitting clearances/tolerances is critical.

I have seen many of his posts on the engine builders Facebook forum and his are always spot on...
Just to add that Skramovsky has figured wet Iron sleeves out too.

On the Subject of manthey or porsche classic: no doubt in my mind you get no improvements over stock as only OEM parts will be used and no modification to said parts thus no improvement either simply because both are 51% or 100% porsche owned
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Originally Posted by hardtailer
On the Subject of manthey or porsche classic: no doubt in my mind you get no improvements over stock as only OEM parts will be used and no modification to said parts thus no improvement either simply because both are 51% or 100% porsche owned
You know a lot about the process Manthey would use for a rebuild, thanks for sharing.

Please share your experience that led to this knowledge.

This one seems pretty stock


This one too

https://www.excellence-mag.com/issue...-less-traveled

https://jzmporsche.com/news/manthey-...96-conversion/

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Old 07-16-2022, 06:53 PM
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Re. Manthey, while I'm still waiting to hear what they can do for me, they definitely do offer non-OE or OEM parts. And going to Manthey for a rebuild, or anything else is not like going to a famous US racing team (except perhaps if you ask them to build you a race car as fast as their own). I have two friends who are regular customers and have seen their price list for parts (and services?) for modifications. They are not a budget brand, but nor are their prices out of the range of other top brands. (I saw their price list/catalog several years ago, by the way, before Germany started making it harder to modify cars. Don't know how that has affected their business.)

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Originally Posted by zbomb
You know a lot about the process Manthey would use for a rebuild, thanks for sharing.

Please share your experience that led to this knowledge.

This one seems pretty stock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

This one too

https://www.excellence-mag.com/issue...-less-traveled

https://jzmporsche.com/news/manthey-...96-conversion/
Ok, I see what you're getting at. I'll rephrase with regards to manthey.
I dont have knowledge of the process of an engine rebuild by Manthey but what made you think I had?
Still, I have no doubt that on a non-Mezger M96 (or M97 for that matter) they will rebuild your engine to stock spec.
That's what I think based on never having heard, read or seen anything they did on the non-Mezger M96 engine (I'm not talking about modifications to other areas (chassis, aero, interior...) of the 996 non-Mezger engined Carrera, mind you).
Instead all their work has been on the gt3 versions of the 996.

If you happen to know differently, zbomb, I'd be interested to read about it.
Apart from all of the above we'll soon read about manthey's response here I presume.


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Originally Posted by hardtailer
I dont have knowledge of the process of an engine rebuild by Manthey but what made you think I had?
Ummm.... when you said the below... Am I missing something. Just say you have no idea, you've never asked or talked to them. Just like I have no idea also having not asked or talked to them. But I like your declarative statements without knowledge.... Cool. If you can find a declarative statement where I said Manthey would do anything, please quote it.

Originally Posted by hardtailer
On the Subject of manthey or porsche classic: no doubt in my mind you get no improvements over stock as only OEM parts will be used and no modification to said parts thus no improvement either simply because both are 51% or 100% porsche owned


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