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I’m I the only weirdo that thinks EV/Hybrids are cool? Would I push to eliminate internal combustion cars? No. Do I love the electric motor whine over a 5 cylinder WRC Audi GT? Hell no. Had that convo today with some co workers and some are either very hot or cold on the topic.
My issue with the conversion is the geo-political influence that trumps common sense.
i like the hybrid idea but perfer an efficient deisel generator over a gas engine. I was waiting for jeep to put there hybrud system in the gladiator but i couldnt wait any longer. All other infrustructure issues aside i think 50 miles a charge is more then enough for 80% of tge populatiin
But this is the off-topic thread, so @wdb how is the latest acquisition?
It is completely bonkers fun. Yesterday I pushed the front end wide at the start of a turn, flicked the wheel to collect it, added noise to bring the rear end in line, and out we came at the other end ----- sublime. All of this was at 40-ish MPH through a pair of 90's in the middle of a farmer's field, no animals were harmed etc. But, well, wow. I haven't had that kind of fun in quite some time. Maybe I need to get the 996 to a track...
I made some pretty good videos with the Caterham but they are upside down. I finally gave up trying to right them. I guess I'll just have to go out and redo them. Aw shucks.
Originally Posted by 3/98 911 coupe
I drove my turbo a total of 351 miles yesterday. I went to Austin Texas to see 1 of 2 ruf gt2 conversions. If you have never been, once you get into the hill country (velande) you have smaller roads, climbs, drops, many blind climbs, curves, etc. Anyway it was fun because I was able to push my car to70-75 mph in 35-40 mph zones. Anyway on the same road, all kinds of cool cars (Evos, Supra’s, stis, m3s, all of them seem modified doing what I was doing). Apparently that’s the way it is on the weekends.
Pleasepleaseplease share some route numbers. I have cross country trips to San Antonio penciled into my future plans, and fun roads in TX would be a huge addition.
Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris
I’m I the only weirdo that thinks EV/Hybrids are cool? Would I push to eliminate internal combustion cars? No. Do I love the electric motor whine over a 5 cylinder WRC Audi GT? Hell no. Had that convo today with some co workers and some are either very hot or cold on the topic.
Heh. I was at a local florist today doing performing one of my essential manly duties (wedding anniversary is imminent), and had the 996 as my companion. When I came out the florist and the guy watering the outside plants engaged me in a 5 minute discussion on the Porsche IPO. Orthagonal I guess but wouldn't one think that florists would favor electrics? Not all of them apparently. Anyway yeah I would like to eventually add an EV to the mix here. I'm not a big fan of how the rollout is being handled; maybe, you know, those people in that town could stop their inane bickering long enough to throw a trillion or so at the electrical grid, before forcing them on us? But then as a rural person who needs a generator I've been carping about the condition of the grid since, oh, Reagan and his Great DeRegulation.
But I digress. I don't care so much about the geewhiz acceleration, and I find the increase in weight to be antithetical to true automotive performance. But the overall noise reduction would be great during those times that I am not actively seeking engine sounds. And having a runabout for 90% of our trips for which we would not have to stop for gas, ever, is also appealing.
Went out to buy a new dishwasher today and felt the same enthusiasm that I have for EVs.
Actually the dishwasher might be a little more exciting.
EVs are more on the vacuum/dehumidifier level.
Went out to buy a new dishwasher today and felt the same enthusiasm that I have for EVs.
Actually the dishwasher might be a little more exciting.
EVs are more on the vacuum/dehumidifier level.
the Hyundai fuel cell EV looks pretty cool. Also Camaro and Challenger EVs are coming. I'll probably get an EV within the next 10 years. But i'll also be keeping my ICE 911. Maybe get a hybrid 911 to sit next to it.
That may be true, but everybody I've ever talked to that decided to eat microwaved burgers daily, metaphorically speaking, absolutely loves them. The fuel cost savings alone are insane.
The Teslas, with their golf car front end and dash, are not for me, but I'm hoping to replace my Macan with an EV Macan if Porsche doesn't screw it up (e.g. make it anywhere as ugly as the spy photo Macan EV pics look, find some way to insert massive maintenance costs into their EV, etc.).
We've had our model 3 performance now for about a month and it is absolutely awesome. I'll always want to have more "soulful" (noisy, leaky, rickety) cars, but considering the fuel savings, insane performance, NVH, tech, etc
My issue with the conversion is the geo-political influence that trumps common sense.
BINGO! Having the government pick and choose what industry or methodology defeats the process. Perhaps referring to how AMF, back in the seventies, was awarded a contract to build a safe car should be the lesson learned on all of this.
Last edited by Formerly996fried; 09-22-2022 at 02:30 PM.
Just as a side note to the whole EV thing, data says that over 25% of all EV owners have sold and switched back to dino fueled vehicles. Number one issue was lack of useful range and number two was charging availability. EV's will be great sometime in the future (think solid state), but that is still a ways off. Plus Hydrogen may give electric a good run for the money.
Just as a side note to the whole EV thing, data says that over 25% of all EV owners have sold and switched back to dino fueled vehicles. Number one issue was lack of useful range and number two was charging availability. EV's will be great sometime in the future (think solid state), but that is still a ways off. Plus Hydrogen may give electric a good run for the money.
The 20% discontinuance number is real, but it's a fake article that cherry-picks certain data points, and leaves out others from the UC Davis report, to internionally paint a false picture. You can tell it's fake because they claim, obviously erroneously, that the only options for home charging are 110 volts (slow charging) or 450 volts (impossible to get at home) -- cut & paste - "The volts supplied by the outlet charging the vehicle appear to be a key factor. Standard home outlets -- the kind you might have in your garage -- supply only 120 volts of electricity. It could take days to fully charge an EV battery. To address this issue, Tesla designed a “supercharger” power outlet delivering 450 volts of electricity. Plugged into that a Tesla can be fully charged in about an hour. But few, if any homes have a Tesla supercharger". (<- last line is particularly ridiculous because the Tesla SuperCharger is purely a commercial product -- no home, in a million years, would ever have commercial 450-volt Supercharger). They completely left out the 240-volt home charger, which is what virtually everybody uses at home. Tesla's 240-volt home charger only costs $495, and install/electrical work was only $500 for my sister-in-law's model Y.
It shows that of those 20.96% who discontinued, 65.2% of them are likely to purchase an EV in the future, 10.5% are unsure, and only 24.3 percent said they were unlikely to purchase an EV in the future. 24.3% of 20.96% means that actually only 5.09% are unlikely to purchase an EV in the future. The research was also across all EV brands, including those not ready for prime time, like Fiat's EV (with rated 87 mile range) had a 38% discontinuance -- Tesla only had 10% discontinuance. And again, many of those will buy one in the future, just logistics don't work for now. For example, I you had a home and moved to an apartment complex where you can't put in your own 240-volt charger, then it likely isn't practical right now.
Rather than rely on research, much of which is intentionally slanted, talk to Tesla owners and see if you can find one that doesn't like it. My sister-in-law is on cloud nine -- costs almost nothing in electricity to run and she loves never having to go to the gas station. Only had to use an external Tesla Supercharger once on a trip to another state in 6 months of ownership.
I"m a vintage car guy -- absolutely love ICE's and hope I can keep vintage cars forever -- but the facts are the facts about EV's and in most areas it trounces ICE. Range limits and battery replacement costs are constraints now, for sure, but for most use cases EV's that you are trading in every 5 or 6 years, they are entirely practical for most scenarios as long as you have access to quality home charging.
09-19-2022, 04:15 PM
