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Old 03-18-2021, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
I've talked about getting an electric car and my wife is against the idea.
We have a Tesla supercharger near our house, and installing a charger at home wouldn't be too difficult.

My wife is also totally against self-driving cars.
I've told her I hope they're safe, reliable, and available when I'm too old to drive so I don't get stuck at home.
Until then I'll be tearing up the road in my smelly, loud Porsche 996!
You should get her to test drive a Tesla. It's fun in a different way. It really goes when you step on it. My kids love the Tesla and that's my 16 yo (and my wife's) favorite to drive. Not ever stopping at a gas station is a special kind of pleasure.

I'm not in any hurry to switch to self driving. I had a loaner with the latest version last month and while impressive I'm still too much of a control freak (I don't even use cruise control). It was nice if I wanted to play with the radio or something.

I too will be burning up the road in my 996 till someone says I'm a danger to others.
Old 03-18-2021, 05:24 PM
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We're on our second Tesla, but the 996 is always the preferred car for a fun drive. Not that the Tesla isn't awesome, it's just the 996 is awsome'er.

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Old 03-18-2021, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel;[url=tel:17304945
17304945[/url]]I had the same issue with my oldest.(now 21)
He wasn't that interested in getting his license and it took forever for him to get the practice hours in.
He didn't get his license until he was 17. (It took 2.5 years to get 110 hours of driving in)
Now he enjoys driving, and I've taught him how to drive a manual transmission in my 996.

My 14 year old daughter can't wait to start learning how to drive.
I imagine she is going to have her license as soon as she turns 16.
She already talks about picking up her friends and going places.



I've talked about getting an electric car and my wife is against the idea.
We have a Tesla supercharger near our house, and installing a charger at home wouldn't be too difficult.

My wife is also totally against self-driving cars.
I've told her I hope they're safe, reliable, and available when I'm too old to drive so I don't get stuck at home.
Until then I'll be tearing up the road in my smelly, loud Porsche 996!
When elevators came out, people were very against the idea of a sealed, moving box falling to the ground if something failed. I don’t blame folks. But now we have autopilot on commercial airliners, traffic lights, etc.

The auto-drive tech is still very new, and we are in uncharted territory. That is why the software package for autonomous driving from Tesla is an optional add-on.
Old 03-18-2021, 06:41 PM
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Quit sitting on the fence and do it! You won't regret it. There are very few cars you can buy, drive for a few years, and then re-sell for what you paid (or more). The 996 is a bargain now and an incredible all around car. I used it as a low-mileage daily for 4 years and it was great. Ironically (based on the direction this thread went) I recently sold it and bought a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Still loved every minute of 911 ownership - but I will admit with a new baby the Tesla gives me more smiles per mile in normal day to day driving scenarios. Doesn't compare to the Porsche in terms of handling/road feel/connection to the driver, and of course sound though.

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Old 03-18-2021, 06:43 PM
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In regular commute times, I'm totally ready for a self driver. I don't want a shared self driver that will come and pick me up. I think these will end up smelling like our BART trains. So at some point, I'll buy an electric car with self driving ability. What I want is that 1-1.5 hours each way back. With a self driver, I could continue to work or read. It's getting close, but still many years off. Tesla is the only one with a controller fast enough to make decisions at speed. And it seems there is still a bit of risk with the algorithm.

But now, with new work from home rules, when I need to commute, it is always at full speed and only takes 40 minutes. I'll take the 996 MT for this any day!

The problem will be when we have a big mix of self drivers and manual drivers. Maybe some roads will be deemed 'self drivers only'. Similar to many hiking trails being off limits to mountain bikes.

So get your smoking 996 today! My guess is 10 years before enough of the industry catches up to the Tesla autopilot! And another 10 years to argue about who gets to use what road.
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Old 03-18-2021, 06:56 PM
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I daily drove a 996C2 manual for three years and now daily drive my 996TT Tip for the past couple of years. The Turbo is a better daily driver with the Tip for ease of use in traffic. Both cars have cost on average around NZ$5000 per year to maintain on top of fuel and tyres. The turbo might be slightly more expensive to run. The Turbo has a tune so makes around 500Hp. That along with the torque really suits the tiptronic. It’s a beast I would recommend it as a daily driver.
Old 03-18-2021, 07:29 PM
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It’s interesting to note that my wife’s new-ish Audi Q5 lost as much money in depreciation ($17k) as I spent on my 996 over the same time period.
Old 03-19-2021, 06:52 PM
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My 996 C2 is used as a daily driver, and pre-covid was my commute car for a 90mi round trip commute 3-4x/week. I put 15k on it the first year I had it, take it camping to Yosemite, grocery store, everything


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Old 03-19-2021, 07:34 PM
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As a 20 year old car it won't be as trouble free as a 2018 Toyota but they're very well built and pretty damn reliable. Lots of people DD them with no problem.

I've only had mine a year. I put 7,300 miles on it and spent around $5k on parts, maintenance, etc. BUT - Most of that was not necessary to keep the car running. $450 PPI, $650 stereo, $1,200.00 tires, plugs, coils, H2O pump to be safe, etc. The only time I've had an issue that stopped me from driving it is a cracked coolant tank which is pretty normal for these. Even then I was able to get home. I could have gone another year on the tires but I'm taking it to the track for HPDE events and the tech didn't like the almost 5 year old tires on it.
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Old 03-19-2021, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ssherman68
As a 20 year old car it won't be as trouble free as a 2018 Toyota but they're very well built and pretty damn reliable. Lots of people DD them with no problem.

I've only had mine a year. I put 7,300 miles on it and spent around $5k on parts, maintenance, etc. BUT - Most of that was not necessary to keep the car running. $450 PPI, $650 stereo, $1,200.00 tires, plugs, coils, H2O pump to be safe, etc. The only time I've had an issue that stopped me from driving it is a cracked coolant tank which is pretty normal for these. Even then I was able to get home. I could have gone another year on the tires but I'm taking it to the track for HPDE events and the tech didn't like the almost 5 year old tires on it.
Thanks for the note. Did you do the maintenance yourself or have a shop do it?
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Originally Posted by Jesse D.
My 996 C2 is used as a daily driver, and pre-covid was my commute car for a 90mi round trip commute 3-4x/week. I put 15k on it the first year I had it, take it camping to Yosemite, grocery store, everything

Mine is regularly seen with my Pivot 429T on top...


Old 03-19-2021, 10:41 PM
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Before covid-19 driving my car 80 miles a day back and forth to work, plus another couple of hundred on the weekend tooling around the Hill Country. These cars were meant to be driven! The harder and faster you drive these things the happier they are!
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Old 03-19-2021, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by the_shansen
Thanks for the note. Did you do the maintenance yourself or have a shop do it?
Almost all myself. I did have the Indy do the brake fluid flush for me at around $300. I’d say I actually spent $1,200 on absolutely necessary maintenance. Since it was 20 years old and I had little service history, I wanted to level set the fluids, spark plugs, water pump, etc. Stereo, tires and original PPI represent almost half of that $5K.
Old 03-20-2021, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by golock911
Maybe some roads will be deemed 'self drivers only'.
That's probably the way electric autopilot cars will really work. It's not yet acknowledged but there are too many variables in the real world for them to go from your driveway to the office, but if a standard specification lane was developed the sensors and computers could safely navigate that. So you will manually drive to the freeway and get in the special lanes, engage autopilot and it will take you to your offramp 1 hour away where you will take back control for complicated city streets. Progressively freeway lanes and main city streets will convert to autopilot only, and around cities self-drivers will not be able to travel.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:25 PM
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Thanks again for the perspectives and I'm moving forward with finding a good daily driver.

I would appreciate y'all helping me think through two 996 examples that are local(ish) to me.

The first is a 2001 C2 in Arctic Silver with ~48K miles. I talked to the owner and the only maintenance that's been done during his/her ownership is oil changes. No other fluids have been changed, IMS not done, RMS not done, clutch not done etc. They're asking $27,700. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...84964295873897 My initial thought is that there would be about $4K for preventative maintenance (IMS, RMS, Clutch, etc) and to bring all the fluids current. I also don't know how old tires are.

Second is a 2003 C2 in Cobalt Blue with 28K miles. IMS recently done at a Porsche dealer, but clutch and RMS was not done. I'm thinking maybe another $1.5K to 2K for maintenance off the bat. https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7071652

I'm thinking the first is priced high given the amount of maintenance needed. I like the color of the second, but I also think it's priced high. If I were to make an offer on the first, I'd aim for $24K and $28-29K for the second, but I'm curious what you all think.

Thanks!


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