The "Ultimate AOS Solution"
#256
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Thanks man. I've put a lot of work into it, but I can see the finish line now !!
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#261
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Yes, you have a 996.2... more difficult than a 996.1..
Are you trying to do a DIY? You never did answer my questions about your track issues you are having and failing AOS's..
#263
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A lot of the cars that have issues on the track is due to a failing AOS or an AOS that has a delayed reaction like in the case of wkf94025 where his AOS tests fine with a manometer reading of -5.5 " h2o but has a 20 second delay where the crankcase vacuum is very high. This would cause a problem on the track.
I have tested the Ultimate AOS on some roads that can duplicate track conditions. Where I live (at the tail end of the Appalachian Mountains) I have some of the twistiest roads that can be found, and that along with the I-22/ I-65 interchange has some long sweeping turns, I can duplicate track conditions to my tire/driver limits. Although a better driver can probably do even better tests. lol
If the DIY'ers can reach the Atmosphere port, it can be sealed with a thick no-drip slicone. But if not comfortable doing this, the reworked AOS will be available and included in the Plug-and Play kit..
#264
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If the DIY'ers can reach the Atmosphere port, it can be sealed with a thick no-drip slicone. But if not comfortable doing this, the reworked AOS will be available and included in the Plug-and Play kit..
I have Quick Jacks. On the highest support setting there is plenty of room under the car, but I don’t think they are much different than jack stands for working under. I can see the AOS bracket, but don’t have a great feel for where the atmosphere port is. If I did know better, I might be able to smear some silicone onto the port opening.
Would it be possible to describe or illustrate where the atmosphere port is located from the “laying on you back point of view”?
#266
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If I can reach it? Is is possible to reach?
I have Quick Jacks. On the highest support setting there is plenty of room under the car, but I don’t think they are much different than jack stands for working under. I can see the AOS bracket, but don’t have a great feel for where the atmosphere port is. If I did know better, I might be able to smear some silicone onto the port opening.
Would it be possible to describe or illustrate where the atmosphere port is located from the “laying on you back point of view”?
I have Quick Jacks. On the highest support setting there is plenty of room under the car, but I don’t think they are much different than jack stands for working under. I can see the AOS bracket, but don’t have a great feel for where the atmosphere port is. If I did know better, I might be able to smear some silicone onto the port opening.
Would it be possible to describe or illustrate where the atmosphere port is located from the “laying on you back point of view”?
#267
With regards to giving the ultimate AOS the ultimate factory look, I like to suggest to replace the two upper screws and corresponding bosses on the reservoir with 2 wedge-shaped bosses or dove tails and corresponding holes with lips in the bracket or a similar arrangement and use a single screw to fixate it.
In car production (lean production) the focus is on reducing the amount of time to put the car together so the amount of screws/bolts is kept to the absolute minimum amount required. As such you often see only one threaded fastener to fixate parts (like the 996 coolant reservoir) and 3 screws to mount a part is a give-away to aftermarket vs OE(M) (with the exception of Porsche 993 and earlier perhaps...)
The rectangular shape of the reservoir and the 'ultimate AOS' script is also a give-away to aftermarket products imho. OE shapes are normally something of combined 3D shapes (cilinders, spheres, cubes with part cutaways of these) or a complex shape that keeps a constant distance from its surroundings to get the biggest reservoir in the given space and have (long) part numbers, brand logo and material composition codes instead of product names on them.
Perhaps shaping it like the vacuum reservoir is an easy way to use a factory shape that is a stock part in any 996 engine compartment.
But maybe I overestimate the eagerness of the smog inspectors and all of the above is overkill and I'll get of my soapbox now 😊
#268
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Yup, get off the and don't overthink it!
What you see is the backside and won't be seen...
What you see is the backside and won't be seen...
#269
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This is an excellent effort, thanks for sharing and making a PnP version available.
With regards to giving the ultimate AOS the ultimate factory look, I like to suggest to replace the two upper screws and corresponding bosses on the reservoir with 2 wedge-shaped bosses or dove tails and corresponding holes with lips in the bracket or a similar arrangement and use a single screw to fixate it.
In car production (lean production) the focus is on reducing the amount of time to put the car together so the amount of screws/bolts is kept to the absolute minimum amount required. As such you often see only one threaded fastener to fixate parts (like the 996 coolant reservoir) and 3 screws to mount a part is a give-away to aftermarket vs OE(M) (with the exception of Porsche 993 and earlier perhaps...)
The rectangular shape of the reservoir and the 'ultimate AOS' script is also a give-away to aftermarket products imho. OE shapes are normally something of combined 3D shapes (cilinders, spheres, cubes with part cutaways of these) or a complex shape that keeps a constant distance from its surroundings to get the biggest reservoir in the given space and have (long) part numbers, brand logo and material composition codes instead of product names on them.
Perhaps shaping it like the vacuum reservoir is an easy way to use a factory shape that is a stock part in any 996 engine compartment.
But maybe I overestimate the eagerness of the smog inspectors and all of the above is overkill and I'll get of my soapbox now 😊
With regards to giving the ultimate AOS the ultimate factory look, I like to suggest to replace the two upper screws and corresponding bosses on the reservoir with 2 wedge-shaped bosses or dove tails and corresponding holes with lips in the bracket or a similar arrangement and use a single screw to fixate it.
In car production (lean production) the focus is on reducing the amount of time to put the car together so the amount of screws/bolts is kept to the absolute minimum amount required. As such you often see only one threaded fastener to fixate parts (like the 996 coolant reservoir) and 3 screws to mount a part is a give-away to aftermarket vs OE(M) (with the exception of Porsche 993 and earlier perhaps...)
The rectangular shape of the reservoir and the 'ultimate AOS' script is also a give-away to aftermarket products imho. OE shapes are normally something of combined 3D shapes (cilinders, spheres, cubes with part cutaways of these) or a complex shape that keeps a constant distance from its surroundings to get the biggest reservoir in the given space and have (long) part numbers, brand logo and material composition codes instead of product names on them.
Perhaps shaping it like the vacuum reservoir is an easy way to use a factory shape that is a stock part in any 996 engine compartment.
But maybe I overestimate the eagerness of the smog inspectors and all of the above is overkill and I'll get of my soapbox now 😊
I had first considered the Bracket to Accumulator mounting to be a more complex clip-on design needing no screws. but decided to keep the attachment simple and more robust.
The size and shape of the Accumulator is on purpose to fit in the area/space available to simplify the hose arrangement and keep a clean tiddy arrangement.
As for the product name on the front of the Accumlator, I couldn't help it...lol.. I felt it needed to be there, but is very small script and is only legible close up and will be hidden from direct view by the air cleaner snorkel.
#270
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Concerning removing the existing AOS assembly, to install the UAOS assembly, I am afraid it would end up to be problematic. I would guess the removal of the old AOS and replacement with the re-worked factory UAOS, could cause problems from cracked hoses and broken plastic hose fittings due to much fumbling and wresting in the tight spaces and limited visibility. Would that be a valid concern?
Thanks again for your time.
Last edited by pauldvazquez; 02-01-2020 at 02:18 PM. Reason: Mid-typed