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Old 04-16-2019, 11:41 AM
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Default How To Read Your 996's Used Oil Analysis

I've been using Blackstone for my used oil analysis for a few years now.
On their site they have basics on how to read an analysis, but nothing real in-depth, and definitely nothing Porsche specific.
Now there's a way to learn from the experts on how to read your oil analysis this coming Thursday, April 18th from 5-9PM CDT.(6-10PM EDT)
Head over to The Knowledge Gruppe's website and sign up today!

Here's what to expect to learn in the class:

-The science behind used oil analysis
-Understanding the methods used to test the oil
-What do the numbers represent
-How to properly take a sample
-The value of trend analysis
-The secrets of used oil analysis
-Reading the report
-What to do with the information?
-When should you panic?

I've attended The Knowledge Gruppe's M96/M97 Engine Rebuild Class 101, and 9A1/DFI Engine Rebuild 101 Class.
Both of these classes were full of useful information, and some closely held secrets you won't read about in the forum.
So I'm expecting to learn almost everything there is to know about used oil analysis and how to interpret the results myself.
Hope to see y'all in class this Thursday!
Old 04-17-2019, 01:48 AM
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Wow, needed to sign up over a year ago to be in the running for a free oil analysis! Per their web ad:

The first 5 people enrolled in the class will receive a free SPEEDiagnostix oil analysis kit, which will be sent ahead of the class, and the results of your sample will be reviewed as part of the class.

NOTE:Used oil samples for these 5 positions must be received by SPEEDiagnostix by April 8, 2018 to qualify.
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Yeah that was a typo.
It had to be in by 4/8/2019.

Anybody going to be in the class with me tomorrow?
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This will be a great class. Lake, Charles, and I pulled together a ton of data to show you guys.

We even had 15 samples from one engine from start, to finish... Life, all the way to death, and they are very revealing, and real.. The engine had an issue with no symptoms, it was operated for 10 years, and failed.. The samples were collected, but never processed by the owner, until the engine failed... then all 15 were processed simultaneously. WOW, what we learned!
If the owner would have just used the samples he collected, when they were collected the engine would have been saved.

that's just one example of what we will instruct...
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I'm looking forward to it.
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Dang! Would really like to "attend" but have a commitment tonight...
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I will be there Tex! I missed the part about the sample....otherwise I would of sent it in....instead I'm waiting for the class before I pull the next sample, I am ready for an oil change.
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I'm about 600 miles from my next oil change.
Due to travelling to Anaheim CA soon, I won't be changing oil until the middle of May.
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Just finished the class, it was awesome. Tons of knowledge gained. I now know what the difference is (and which tests) are oil properties, what the additive package is, and which items are the engine health.

Let's see if I remember it in a week!

Thanks Jake, Lake and Charles!

If you are interested in oil analysis and it confuses you after doing some testing, you should attend this class, it was four hours and seemed more like 45 minutes.
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Yes, it was a great class!
It was good to see the full 15 UOA samples of the failed engine.
Lake's explanation of what happened to the engine oil-wise was very revealing.
Before the class I would have completely missed the warning signs.
Now I know what to REALLY look for.
I'm thinking about sending my next sample to Blackstone & SpeedDiagnostix.
I have a small trend with Blackstone, and want to build the same with SpeedDiagnostix.
It will be interesting to see both reports side by side.
I'll probably switch to SpeedDiagnostix since it appears that they have a more thorough report.
I save a ton by doing my own oil changes, so I don't mind spending a bit on a UOA.
It's cheaper than an engine rebuild, especially if you catch a failure before it become catastrophic!
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Guys, that was fun!
I agree, the engine with the 15 samples from life to death was the most epic example we could ever hope for!
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Jake,
I also agree that you need to consider a Durametric or ODBII scanner class.
A Durametric is an expensive tool, so we should be getting the most out of it.
You hit on parts of it during the IMS Solution/IMSB Pre-qualification video.
Going into how to use it and what ranges to expect from important PIDs would help out a lot of folks.

Bruce
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
Jake,
I also agree that you need to consider a Durametric or ODBII scanner class.
A Durametric is an expensive tool, so we should be getting the most out of it.
You hit on parts of it during the IMS Solution/IMSB Pre-qualification video.
Going into how to use it and what ranges to expect from important PIDs would help out a lot of folks.

Bruce
The problem is that I’m no longer proficient with Durametric.. We use PIWIS and Autologic here, and thats what we instruct in the engine Management class.
The Durametric is a great, very powerful tool, especially for the DIY owners. I tell all my engine owners to buy one, as it is such a great, powerful tool.

We’ll consider it.. I will just have to start using it more often to get back in the groove.
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I usually grab my Snap-on since it starts up faster and I'm more familiar with it.
I use the Snap-on will all kinds of cars, so I have a lot more hands-on with it.
But I'm sure I can get more Porsche specific data from the Durametric Pro version.
I wish there was an instructional video going into its detailed use like there is from Snap-on.

I'd like a PIWIS, but since I work on so many different vehicles it is hard to justify an expensive tool for just one line of cars.
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
I usually grab my Snap-on since it starts up faster and I'm more familiar with it.
I use the Snap-on will all kinds of cars, so I have a lot more hands-on with it.
But I'm sure I can get more Porsche specific data from the Durametric Pro version.
I wish there was an instructional video going into its detailed use like there is from Snap-on.

I'd like a PIWIS, but since I work on so many different vehicles it is hard to justify an expensive tool for just one line of cars.
The Durametric s a great tool. For what it is, and the cost it is powerful. lots of shops that can’t justify the cost for a PST or PIWIS can use the Durametric for both OBD1 and OBD2 Porsche cars. I use the Bosch Hammer on my 964 because it works so well, and quick.

That said, any car that has anything newer than OBD1 is too new for my fleet :-)

I have an email in to Durham about online and hands on Durametric classes. I’d like to do this with him, if possible.



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