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Old 02-04-2019 | 08:41 PM
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70k. Original clutch/imsb
Old 02-04-2019 | 08:43 PM
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Forgot year. 2000 C2
Old 02-04-2019 | 08:48 PM
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Yep. It's all made up.
The Earth is flat too, in case you didn't know.
Old 02-04-2019 | 09:08 PM
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Now you’ve done it...happy now?
Old 02-04-2019 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Yep. It's all made up.
The Earth is flat too, in case you didn't know.
Ha Ha Ha.....

jake maybe you should send him a private message to "sell" him a solution.

who would think, a company that designs a product to potentially save us owners tens of thousands of dollars. And supply all of us with your free research and knowledge. The nerve of you! You should be ashamed.
Old 02-04-2019 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JB001
I'm convinced that the 996 engines are liable ones and that the IMS issue has been exaggerated by companies marketing "solutions".
One way to find out if I am right (or wrong) is to ask here: How many miles on your engine with the original IMS bearing?

Mine is a 1999 C2 convertible with 76000 miles.
JB, what the heck are you smoking man!? You really think the whole thing is a big made up conspiracy? Really? Why would these companies spend 15+ years of their lives in research and development blowing up motors left and right (so that we don't have to) in order to produce durable IMS products and install kits that are better than what left the factory? Wouldn't be easier to just make a copycat bearing from the OEM and then hire a high-dollar marketing team to promote it near the time of the class action lawsuit? Why waste 15 years of your life, right? Seriously, Porsche had their chance and they blew it (no pun intended). All they were doing is brushing the problem under the rug, suppressing the evidence, and replacing engines. Ignorance is bliss! If Porsche didn't think there was a problem, then they wouldn't have made three versions of the bearing! But they knew... they made compromises at the expense of the owners. This picture was taken at the shop during my IMS Solution install. They said that was the "small stack"! They had throw out hundreds over the years. They also showed me a picture of a large metal recycle bin filled with metal shrapnel from blown M96/M97 engines due to IMS failure. No, this wasn't to scare me into having the IMS Solution installed, I had already made the decision BEFORE I saw these intermediate shafts. I knew the right thing to do and I'm not looking back.


Old 02-04-2019 | 09:25 PM
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2000 coupe, 92,000 miles, original IMS.
Old 02-04-2019 | 09:44 PM
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97,748 completed, previous owner, L&N Dual row update kit. I bought it at 99,000
Old 02-04-2019 | 10:31 PM
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Old 02-04-2019 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Yep. It's all made up.
The Earth is flat too, in case you didn't know.
And the moon landings were fake too. Since the moon landings were fake, then the m96 ims must be a fantasy too.

That’s why I had the IMs Solution installed on my new to me 2003 in November. I have driven the car a total of 120 miles so far.

argh, where is spring?

All kidding aside, I don’t understand why do anything but the Solution. Isn’t the price differential when all is said and done about $1000 which is 20%? You still replace the clutch, flywheel, rms, AOS.
Old 02-04-2019 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NuttyProfessor
JB, what the heck are you smoking man!? You really think the whole thing is a big made up conspiracy? Really? Why would these companies spend 15+ years of their lives in research and development blowing up motors left and right (so that we don't have to) in order to produce durable IMS products and install kits that are better than what left the factory? Wouldn't be easier to just make a copycat bearing from the OEM and then hire a high-dollar marketing team to promote it near the time of the class action lawsuit? Why waste 15 years of your life, right? Seriously, Porsche had their chance and they blew it (no pun intended). All they were doing is brushing the problem under the rug, suppressing the evidence, and replacing engines. Ignorance is bliss! If Porsche didn't think there was a problem, then they wouldn't have made three versions of the bearing! But they knew... they made compromises at the expense of the owners. This picture was taken at the shop during my IMS Solution install. They said that was the "small stack"! They had throw out hundreds over the years. They also showed me a picture of a large metal recycle bin filled with metal shrapnel from blown M96/M97 engines due to IMS failure. No, this wasn't to scare me into having the IMS Solution installed, I had already made the decision BEFORE I saw these intermediate shafts. I knew the right thing to do and I'm not looking back.

I certainly don't think that "whole thing is a big made up conspiracy" and clearly understand the problem but think that most of the 996 never had any issue with the IMS. We all can see 996 sold for less than a used 100 000 miles Camry (No offense to the Camry which are good cars; my wife loves her 3rd Camry).
Luckily, I didn't visit this forum before buying my 996, otherwise, I will still drive a BMW... I appreciate that Companies developed a "solution" to replace the defective IMS but all the noise made around this $1,000.00 part (less than 1/1000 of the new car value) ruined the 996 market value and I think that it is time to let people know how amazing are these cars even after 20 years of daily drive.

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Originally Posted by JB001
I certainly don't think that "whole thing is a big made up conspiracy" and clearly understand the problem but think that most of the 996 never had any issue with the IMS. We all can see 996 sold for less than a used 100 000 miles Camry (No offense to the Camry which are good cars; my wife loves her 3rd Camry).
Luckily, I didn't visit this forum before buying my 996, otherwise, I will still drive a BMW... I appreciate that Companies developed a "solution" to replace the defective IMS but all the noise made around this $1,000.00 part (less than 1/1000 of the new car value) ruined the 996 market value and I think that it is time to let people know how amazing are these cars even after 20 years of daily drive.
996 market value didn’t drop because of the IMS. It dropped because of the era of the car, and the recession that hit at a critical time in the life of these cars. Compare the loss of value to other European sports cars of the era and you’ll see that the 996 fared pretty well.
Old 02-04-2019 | 11:29 PM
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99 C2, 4/98 build, 94,000 miles, original clutch, IMSB, but the driver(me) looks worse for wear every day.
Old 02-05-2019 | 01:18 AM
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It’s just a matter of when not if with any engine. I don’t think any 996 is going to touch the guy with over 800k on his C5. Cold starts will eventually lead to a failure. It might not be the IMS that goes first either but it’s serviceable, so roll the dice however you like.
Old 02-05-2019 | 01:31 AM
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99 C2 with 54k on the original IMSB... but Im on the second engine! First one lasted to 98k when the bearing blew


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