Rear brakes - Brembo (OEM) vs Porsche disks (rotors) and pads?
#1
Rear brakes - Brembo (OEM) vs Porsche disks (rotors) and pads?
Time for new rear pads and disks. My local specialist suggests I consider Brembo's "OEM" parts, which are less expensive than the parts from Porsche. He doesn't think Brembo's OEM front disk is as good as Porsche's, but thinks the rears and pads are fine.
So I'm wondering: Does Brembo really make the original Porsche parts? And if so, are the Brembo OEM parts the same parts? (I'm especially interested in the regular (non Turbo) brakes for a 996.2, since that's what I have.)
Did some searching. Most helpful was a 997 thread (https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-brakes-2.html) suggesting Brembo does NOT make the 997 disks, contrary to what many apparently think; and also pointing out that Brembo OEM and Brembo high performance are not the same.
I also found a post here saying MY2002 pads are Texstar: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...00-brembo.html
Anyway, any insight into whether the pads and/or disks are the same parts would be greatly appreciated!
So I'm wondering: Does Brembo really make the original Porsche parts? And if so, are the Brembo OEM parts the same parts? (I'm especially interested in the regular (non Turbo) brakes for a 996.2, since that's what I have.)
Did some searching. Most helpful was a 997 thread (https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-brakes-2.html) suggesting Brembo does NOT make the 997 disks, contrary to what many apparently think; and also pointing out that Brembo OEM and Brembo high performance are not the same.
I also found a post here saying MY2002 pads are Texstar: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...00-brembo.html
Anyway, any insight into whether the pads and/or disks are the same parts would be greatly appreciated!
#2
Drifting
What are you planning to do with the car and how much do you want to spend? There are lots of people here that know a lot more than me who can provide good advice.
For a daily driver with occasional DE use I had a reputable shop recommend Sebro rotors and Textar pads as a lower cost option.
I’ve found (edited to remove "Zimmerman", changed to "Meyle") Meyle rotors and Textar pads as a fine inexpensive option for street use.
For a daily driver with occasional DE use I had a reputable shop recommend Sebro rotors and Textar pads as a lower cost option.
I’ve found (edited to remove "Zimmerman", changed to "Meyle") Meyle rotors and Textar pads as a fine inexpensive option for street use.
Last edited by cds72911; 06-13-2018 at 10:35 AM.
#3
Meyle rotors and Textar pads will be your cheapest option, and will be indistinguishable in performance from Porsche-branded parts. You should be able to replace the rear rotors for about ~$120 and rear pads for ~$70. Half the cost of Zimmermann, 1/3 the cost of Porsche. I use them on my car which sees ~10 track days a year with no issues. For a street car I DEFINITELY would not spend money on something more expensive!
#4
Drifting
dkraige, your post got me to look at my receipts - yes, Meyle is the low cost option I used with Textar pads, not Zimmerman. There is a seller on eBay that has a set of all four Meyle rotors for $177, free shipping. They're almost disposable wear items at that point - keep a spare set in the garage and throw them on at the next oil change . The quality seems to be fine for any use I've had. They've taken some abuse (serious heat) on the track and not had any issues.
#5
Rennlist Member
Porsche's rotors were/are made by ATE, not Brembo. Stock pads were made by Textar. You can buy both of these under ATE and Textar brands for much cheaper than the same ones that come in a Porsche box.
#6
I guess that is kind of important for choosing the right parts! I basically just want Porsche parts for less. I've no need for something that can take more abuse, or last longer, or makes less noise, etc. Lighter I'd pay extra for though ... .
#7
Thanks!
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#8
It seems Textar OEM pads will cost me neary as much as parts from Porsche, and are a lot more expensive than Brembo pads. But my local specialist believes Textar T4045 pads are identical to the Textar OEM pads and they cost a lot less. Does anyone know if that is right?
Thanks - and thanks for all the helpful advice so far!
Thanks - and thanks for all the helpful advice so far!
#10
Rennlist Member
Interesting. I used ATE rotors on a different car and had no desire to use them again. And even that car's stock brakes were no where near as good as the Pcar's. I guess it's a case of a supplier making parts in various different quality levels. So if I buy ATE "OEM" rotors, I can be sure I get Porsche quality? Is that you (or anyone else's) experience with them?
Thanks!
Thanks!
If you really want top-shelf quality you should be looking at a set of GiroDisc 2 piece rotors. That is the "ultimate" upgrade.
#11
Drifting
Look around on the internet a bit and you can find those same Textars, front and rear both for under $180 with four new wear sensors. Believe it or not, eBay has some good deals. Partscontainer is a seller that I've purchased pads and rotors from. The last set (four Meyle rotors, Textar pads all around, four wear sensors) ran me $361.90, free shipping.
Also, one thing to note (in case it matters to you): the low cost Meyle rotors are made in Asia, whereas Sebro are made in Germany.
Also, one thing to note (in case it matters to you): the low cost Meyle rotors are made in Asia, whereas Sebro are made in Germany.
#12
" get the original Textars from a Porsche dealer in their Porsche boxes and part numbers, I recently had my specialist fit textars, but not purchased from Porsche and my specialist said that the compounds are not the same, I thought it was banter because I had denied him of his parts 'mark up' but they do feel less efficient than my old OEM's. Maybe they are bedding in but I'm not sure!! They just don't seem to have the same 'bite'.
Jonas at JZM said that Porsche purchased the 'rights' to this particular coumpond
so Textar can sell Pads for 993/964 etc independantly but not made of the same compound...........mmm?”
So if T4045 = Textar OEM, that's good. But does Textar OEM = Textar from Porsche???
#13
It's interesting that Pelican has ATE coated rear discs coming in at $60 ea, but another for a undisclosed OEM supplied for $179 ea, and then the Porsche Genuine part for $162 ea.
I bought Textar 986 352 939 10 rear pads with no noticeable change in performance from "stock" FWIW.
Don't forget to bed them. The brake flush interval is every 2 years regardless of mileage, might want to check your records for when that was last done.
I bought Textar 986 352 939 10 rear pads with no noticeable change in performance from "stock" FWIW.
Don't forget to bed them. The brake flush interval is every 2 years regardless of mileage, might want to check your records for when that was last done.
#14
Former Vendor
The thing I don't like about the Brembo rotors are they don't come coated, so they rust and look like crap.
I have the ATE coated, and of course the other brands too. https://www.warehouse33auto.com/cata...ake-Brake.Disc
-Jason
I have the ATE coated, and of course the other brands too. https://www.warehouse33auto.com/cata...ake-Brake.Disc
-Jason
#15
Rennlist Member
The thing I don't like about the Brembo rotors are they don't come coated, so they rust and look like crap.
I have the ATE coated, and of course the other brands too. https://www.warehouse33auto.com/cata...ake-Brake.Disc
-Jason
I have the ATE coated, and of course the other brands too. https://www.warehouse33auto.com/cata...ake-Brake.Disc
-Jason