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Fascinating turn of events! FWIW I guess it's good to see Porsche still care about supporting the M96 or making money but im going to be optimistic and think it's the former
Price is $629.51 as of last July. Here are some pictures of the kit as well. There are no service bulletins with instructions, tools required, or recommended service interval that anyone can find. I guess they are expecting dealerships to just use the IMS Pro Tool kits they have used the last 10 years with the procedure we developed :-)
I would like to point out the date of manufacture on the labels. Bearings are from 2013 and the flange is from 2014. There are a few theories floating around. The most plausible is they came up with the kit thinking that the class action suit may result in their having to replace IMS bearings through some sort of recall. The kits themselves have a date stamp of 6/30/2017, so they were not kitted and ready for sale until this year.
It is reassuring that their engineers came up with the same answer we did going with a ceramic hybrid bearing and that they still believe lubrication is not a problem since they still are including a grease seal on the bearing.
Yes, it looks as if they have been sitting on this for a couple years now, or it was released in parts, and now in kit form. I'll contact my associates that are still at the dealership and see if they are aware of this information, or can add to it. A lot of information gets shared at Tech meetings or Tech Training that never leaves the loop unless asked.
This could do a lot for the Brand image and reputation for the 996. I would love to see some more come from Stuttgart for the 996.
From what I hear, IMS retrofit would also be the time to replace the water pump.
Not necessarily. They're at opposite ends of the engine and don't have a ton to do with one another. The water pump can be easily replaced with the engine and transmission in the car. The IMS bearing requires removing at least the transmission, but again that's at the opposite end of the engine from the water pump, so doesn't really get you any closer to replacing the WP. If you take the engine out to do the IMS, then sure, it would make sense to do the WP at the same time.
My newly acquired '99 996/tiptronic has 82,500 on it and supposedly the lowest failure rate - but I will still likely have the LN Solution done for long term peace of mind. I like the aspect of direct oil feed.
Looking at picking up a 996, read that there is a IMS retro fit that will solve the grenade potential on the motor? They are just priced so low I figure just add $1500-$2k for the ims change. Correct?
Hi I have done a lot of research regarding IMS before buying both 996 and 997, I also spoke with Porsche and found research (from their warranties which I no longer have as this was about 3 years back)
The research from the warranty company says, they checked 100 cars with an average of 88,000 miles and 6 had had an IMS failure. (so one goes on average every 1,400,000miles driven).
The research also showed that they could go at under 20k or over 200k
I asked my main dealer if it was worth changing IMS bearing:-) in mind they would be getting around 2 or 3k for the job.
They told me it's never worth changing unless it is braking (which makes sense) I don't change any other part of my car unless it needs it, and if they do fail you will hear it, turn off engine and phone recovery (simple).
No doubt you will hear lots of stories of people who have brothers who have friends who have colleague who new someone that lived on the moon and his IMS went and it cost him $400,000,000,000.00 to fix.
I also checked with my local indi garage and although he has changed quite a few he has never changed a broken one.
I think it's a bit of Chinese whispers
Looking at picking up a 996, read that there is a IMS retro fit that will solve the grenade potential on the motor? They are just priced so low I figure just add $1500-$2k for the ims change. Correct?
Hi I have done a lot of research regarding IMS before buying both 996 and 997, I also spoke with Porsche and found research (from their warranties which I no longer have as this was about 3 years back)
The research from the warranty company says, they checked 100 cars with an average of 88,000 miles and 6 had had an IMS failure. (so one goes on average every 1,400,000miles driven).
The research also showed that they could go at under 20k or over 200k
I asked my main dealer if it was worth changing IMS bearing:-) in mind they would be getting around 2 or 3k for the job.
They told me it's never worth changing unless it is braking (which makes sense) I don't change any other part of my car unless it needs it, and if they do fail you will hear it, turn off engine and phone recovery (simple).
No doubt you will hear lots of stories of people who have brothers who have friends who have colleague who new someone that lived on the moon and his IMS went and it cost him $400,000,000,000.00 to fix.
I also checked with my local indi garage and although he has changed quite a few he has never changed a broken one.
I think it's a bit of Chinese whispers
Hi I have done a lot of research regarding IMS before buying both 996 and 997, I also spoke with Porsche and found research (from their warranties which I no longer have as this was about 3 years back)
The research from the warranty company says, they checked 100 cars with an average of 88,000 miles and 6 had had an IMS failure. (so one goes on average every 1,400,000miles driven).
The research also showed that they could go at under 20k or over 200k
I asked my main dealer if it was worth changing IMS bearing:-) in mind they would be getting around 2 or 3k for the job.
They told me it's never worth changing unless it is braking (which makes sense) I don't change any other part of my car unless it needs it, and if they do fail you will hear it, turn off engine and phone recovery (simple).
No doubt you will hear lots of stories of people who have brothers who have friends who have colleague who new someone that lived on the moon and his IMS went and it cost him $400,000,000,000.00 to fix.
I also checked with my local indi garage and although he has changed quite a few he has never changed a broken one.
I think it's a bit of Chinese whispers
Find a new dealer. If they are replacing only broken IMS bearings, they are putting more failure prone engines back into the market. If I was shopping for a car, I would actually ask for the dealers name so I could avoid any of their cars that they replaced an IMS on.
01-01-2018, 07:19 PM
