Chicago6MT

Found this ad while searching for another object of lust:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911

It has to be someone from the forum. The ad proclaims, in part:

UPGRADED ENGINE by Jake Raby at Raby Engine Development (Flat 6 Innovations).

$20,000 invested into Stage 1 performance upgrade from 3.4 to 3.6. Increasing useable power and flattening the torque curve for increased drivability and overall performance.

Big Bore Cylinders, Custom JE Forged pistons w/lightweight pins & low tension rings. Billet Chromoly Connecting Rods, Low Temperature actuated thermostat, Race level Dynamic Balance with index, Cryogenic enhancement of value train components, Spin-on oil filter adapter. IMS Bearing Retrofit, Ultra-Duty Billet Chromoly Intermediate Bearing with modified intermediate shaft,...

What say you?

KoB

Sounds about right ... certainly less expensive than buying a running car and sending it to FSI for a 3.6 street engine. Probably less expensive that buying a roller and doing the same. And most 996s are likely to have more than 57k on the chassis.

IMO, it's stupidly overpriced if you think Jake's stuff is stupidly overpriced. And it's a pretty fair price if you think Jake's stuff is good value. I'm in the "good value" camp, so I think it's a reasonable ask. No idea if he'll actually get it, but I suspect he might.

TonyTwoBags

I don't think the market has fully figured out the IMS issue, much less scoring, cracked heads, etc. Given that, it's more likely to undervalue something like a quality rebuild. In sum, I think the asking price is fine & that it can eventually sell near that price. In 10 years a car of that quality won't sit around imo.

gnat

I don't think it is someone here. At least I don't recall them chiming in anytime it has come up as a subject.

It has been listed for sale for a long time (a year at least I think) so you can't really say that $30k is the value since it hasn't sold.

On the flip side, this spring one of our wonderful neighbors to the north picked up a 40AE on BaT that has been an early Raby build, but was having issues. If I remember correctly he paid $20k USD (not including auction fees) and then shipped it directly to Jake for a $12k USD spa session to whip it back in shape.

Chicago6MT

I hear you. If you're in love with the 996, or had a failure, I can understand to some degree. Once you hit $30+, you start getting within spitting distance of a 997.2. There are several 60k mile examples out there listed for $40-$43...meaning you can probably get the for sub-40 money. I know there has been some discussion of DFI gremlins, but that's not going to result in an engine failure. I know they're not perfect either, no 911 is, but I don't think they have "29 known modes of failure" and are nicely updated by comparison. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe there's some value in staying with the devil you know.

Flat6 Innovations

If that car would have had my Stage 2 engine, it would already be sold.. There's a HUGE difference in the Street Performer, and Track Performer demand. We harley build any Stage 1 engines these days.. Maybe 2-3 per year.

Good deal on that car for someone who wants a keeper.

ejdoherty911

Worth every penny considering what's out there in the 911 world for under $30k. Unicorns aside, the only 911s you can purchase these days for under $30k are 'regular' 996s and the occasional odd ball 911 with crazy high miles and/or lots of work needed.

With this Raby rebuilt 996 you can get into the 911 world for under $30k and sleep at night. My God who wouldn't pay less than a $10k premium for that kind of reliability and less than 60,000 miles.

gnat

I agree the price is right, but as long as this one has been available it appears that there are few of us that A) get it and B) are in the market.

Flat6 Innovations

The car hasn't been marketed correctly. This car needs to be in the PCA Classifieds.

AWDGuy

that's what I advertised my 4.0 for - 29k us.

FRUNKenstein

I'll bet that car would bring close to $30k on BaT.


And he'd have it sold in a week

Flat6 Innovations

If they'd accept it. They are getting dozens of 996 submissions per week, and only take a handful.

I had one to sell, and they turned me down. Reminded me why I don't sell cars, and just buy more.

gnat

Seems like there are always 2 up so I completely get them filtering cars, seems to me like they'd want cars with your motors though as they are something special over the standard 996.

Their loss (on the auction fees) as I'm sure you'll still be able to move it pretty easily.

Flat6 Innovations

I gave it to a family member. I'm getting rid of everything I own with an OBDII port.

Going back to 1995 and older for the whole fleet! I'll only keep my early Duramax GMC for pulling my trailer.

gnat

I need to move back home to GA and figure out how we are family members